June 16, 2021

1 Step Forward, 3 Steps Back

1 Step Forward, 3 Steps Back

Episode 29 of Undebatable will have you crying from laughter, you know, the kind where your belly hurts. Join the cast as we discuss this weeks hot topics. We look at the flu-like virus (not covid-19) spreading through the southern, USA, Also a look at a small town called Roswell, New Mexico, know as UFO capitol of the world and why they are eager for the new Department of Defense report being released this month.  Also, should sharing your salary with co-workers be an acceptable practice in the work place. And this week in weird news two stories, one a Lobster diver was swallowed by a whale and A fire department was called to rescue a woman after her TikTok Sex Stunt Goes Awry.  All that and more on this weeks episode of Undebatable.

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Transcript

Keith:

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Bradford :

Where the hell is he? We will change that one day, we will exaggerate as

Raylene:

we get a Patreon sponsor and we get afford that $5

Unknown:

Welcome back to another episode of undebatable I'm leading today when I'm highly nervous, so I have extra booze and my wife made this

Steve:

whole plan that you would like start and like stumble me nervous. I was gonna call you out in the middle of it to add to the pressure. That's really good. Steve just whacked me. So you still

Raylene:

have to tell people who you are because you are not Curtis? No,

Unknown:

I'm not Curtis. I wish I was as attractive as Curtis was, oh.

Raylene:

He posts all those photos. And I'm like, Yeah, no, I'm a I'm a temporary slash permanent. You are placement. Permanent. We love you.

Unknown:

Thank you guys so much for listening. Please make sure that you share the podcast connect with us on social media. We are at www dot undebatable dot show. And you can always support us at our Patreon and then we can update all of our branding and cartoon character of myself. There you go.

Steve:

actually making those ourselves by the way. Oh, fuck yeah. Now

Raylene:

give us that new app. Have you seen the new app where it turns everybody? No cartoon? Yeah, like a Disney character?

Steve:

Yeah, the Russians own all that stuff from that face app shit. I've never trusted anything like that ever since

Unknown:

I didn't see like a warning that it's not like it's tracking certain things about you. Oh, God.

Steve:

Yeah, as long as it's Americans taking my shit. I'm cool with that. If it's other country taking my stuff. I'm not I'm not I don't care

Raylene:

what the Russians gonna do with a picture of my face masturbating to it.

Bradford :

Cartoon maybe Vladimir Putin's riding through wherever he's riding with a shirt off and his horse

Steve:

I like using my my Google a name long before you're supposed to put your face at him. So he could you could get me

Raylene:

what what else would you put in your pitch?

Steve:

my face and my other face? Wait, now it's like standard don't put your face in them because people put it on the internet. They try to blackmail is that actually happened to me?

Raylene:

Oh, you're talking about? Okay. No.

Steve:

It was awesome. I did a dig pick with your face in it was accidental. There's a mirror behind me. Like I was using another mirror with another mirror. Not realizing that like the angle wasn't right. I kind of knew was like, I'm not gonna lie when I when I have these scams come along my way. I have no money for you to take in the first place. Well, I was an actual person that tried to It was awesome. So I love these because I have no there's no risk for me. So like I love to just string them along. So I was like this classic fake hot chick, right? And I was like using hinge. I was like, Oh, I forgot about this fucking dating app. Let me go find the same chicks on this one. Right. So I'm on there and I'm like, seemed pretty legit. But see, I'm not fluent with hinge yet. So like, I'm good with the other stuff. I know fakes and I'm like, I don't know. We'll see. So he started sending me shit. I'm like, those are stock pictures. Those are fake. And I was just I just got really curious and I was like, You know what? Alright, here we go. Because it kept like kept demanding. Like, send me a body picture. I really want to suit you look like I'm I'm not fucking stupid. I'm at a sheepish shit too. So I'm like, two things that gonna if they react with Who am I get your fucking line. Right? So I did it and it happened. Right? And then the next message is like, this is Ishmael. There's some crazy shit we have all your photos and they like screenshotted like my family, my like my friends family on my Facebook account, and send me like, we're gonna send all the pictures to all your contacts in a row. I'll send them for you, you fucking piece of shit. And then I blocked them and I went back the hinge and I wrote Fuck you and I blocked her. And guess what? No one caught my dick pics. Oh my God, because people actually fall for this stupid shit. How the fuck do you have all my content? If you're good enough to do that, man. Kudos to you. It'd be awkward at Christmas, but I'll get over it.

Raylene:

I was talking to a grandma. Do you see my penis?

Steve:

grandma's dead so just my aunts and

Raylene:

uncles never like you grew up nice, Steve.

Steve:

If you guys were in my phone, you would now know my penis looks like but I would just get over it. That's it.

Raylene:

I know when you were a little I'm glad to know what grew. I've learned from political

Steve:

scandals that though people who lie and try to dodge it it gets way worse right? When shit hits you just fucking where it stand there and let people do

Unknown:

there was a celebrity that did that where like someone threatened to leak her nudes or like an extra threatened to like her nudes and she was like, I can't I'm just gonna put them out there to the universe. And she did and it's like, such a female power in our marriage.

Steve:

Right out of it. And they seem radio's No, like, Oh, this person must be famous. Like, I mean, ledyard Connecticut. I was talking to Connecticut, let alone legend.

Unknown:

I was talking to a guy who like used to record his sexual endeavors. And he his axe, used it on only fans. made like 15 bucks off of it. Wow. Yeah. $15 do

Raylene:

you see that advertisement that came from Fox shorts because Pauly Shore is coming and he said that he was going like this. There's a list of all the places gonna be and one of them is Connecticut, Massachusetts. Wow, Connecticut comma, Massachusetts. So like, nobody else will fuck We are the company I work for. They probably met massive, massive tuckett. Right.

Steve:

Do you want 100%? Right, some dude in California was writing that and like mash and Tucker, they destroyed Massachusetts. Right? Or they don't even actually they don't even know how New England works. Because, you know, it wouldn't be like Idaho, India, right?

Bradford :

Is what I tend to do. So the company I work for is based out of Rhode Island, and this person said to me on the phone. So where? Where are you guys located? And I was like, oh, Rhode Island. They're like, God, darn it. Why can't we ever speak to someone in the US now? Well, island in the Caribbean? And I'm like, Rhode Island, you know, like under Master? Oh, so you are in the US? I'm like, Yeah, can you hear me? I don't sound like

Steve:

I saw on those stupid studies. The other day. We're like 30% of people didn't know that were the Grand Canyon was you thought it was Colorado, Arizona, the same percentage thought to be fair, like touches like forks. But if you had to put a home state, it's Arizona. Also they thought Niagara Falls was an Iceland. What like this. And what's funny, as I read that, it was just a little headlines like 30% of people think both things I just said and then said, but when asked about their competence, much geography prior to the test, their confidence was literally like nine.

Raylene:

Everything. Cool. Does anybody know where the London branch is? Do you know where the London Bridge is? For sure. For real? For real? Do? I feel like because you're asking this, I don't feel good.

Steve:

I know the River Thames goes underneath it. And I would assume it's in London,

Raylene:

Britain. The London Bridge is in Arizona, it was moved. The actual London Bridge. Wow, there's probably other

Steve:

day now and I don't want to go down this road.

Raylene:

It's in Arizona. Speaking of now, I have to Google that make sure I'm right. But

Steve:

I'm not lying. My brain was like, how can I argue against this? And I was like, shit, I don't even want to put in the

Unknown:

well, Steve, we're gonna make your brain hurt more awesome, awesome topics. So we've got a couple topics to cover today. There's a weird but true story floating around about a lobster diver who survived being swallowed by a whole frickin whale. So that should be interesting from semen. Oh, we're gonna talk about sharing your salary with your co workers. And I told Steve my HR was tingling. So I'm excited to talk about that. My favorite new word phonology? Are UFOs still out there. We'll talk about that. Still. Are they out there? Of course they are. And then a flu like virus that isn't COVID is spreading through Southern USA. So let's talk about something other than COVID.

Raylene:

That would be what I had last week. I Oh, yeah. I came from Savannah. And I was well, I was I mean that like an ad like, cool. Yeah, I'm like, I'm an overweight diabetic. So yeah, I'm getting everything but also my daughter got it. But we were in Savannah. And when I left Savannah, two days later, in Orlando, I started to get the cough. My daughter came back, she had the cough. And just for the sake of argument, when we got when I got off the airplane, I got the COVID test. But because I had had COVID before I knew it wasn't COVID because it didn't doesn't feel it doesn't feel the same at all. Right? There's if you've ever had COVID you know, you can feel it in your lungs, you can feel like I don't want to breathe too deeply because that's gonna make me start coughing and then I'm going to pee my pants. Well, maybe not everybody but but this was just a regular head cold and it was snotty and coffee and

Steve:

maybe I had some I guess I think everyone thought they had allergies.

Raylene:

Right? It was that week that yeah, that whole three weeks. I feel

Steve:

like give it something serious. Oh, like the movie outbreak. This is like this, this scene would be in it Billy. So I just got back from Georgia and I had this thing where like, we're checking the air conditioner before we started the show. And now it's all circulating and before we know we're like the cluster that starts Connecticut.

Unknown:

Well the CDC is saying that it's it's caught it's a common virus respiratory sin mark as the kissing. Man. I'm freaking out. Yeah, it's hard to pronounce. Yeah, seriously, but that is just abnormal to be prominent at this time of year. So right.

Raylene:

So it's okay, we're all wearing masks when it was supposed to come out with This

Steve:

is a this is a thing that's like known. It's not like new. We're right.

Unknown:

There's still a fear. Like after having been what we've been through it with COVID Is there a fear?

Bradford :

Well, I think so. I think Well, the fact that like, there's there's so many like COVID long haulers. Right. And so I think they're worried like, what is the impact on you now? Should you get another respiratory type? illness? You know, what is the impact to you? I

Raylene:

thought far I had a cough.

Bradford :

Good. I talked to a guy who unfortunately was in a very different scenario. He was brought back he flatlined he had COVID and his brother was one of these like, it's not real it's a hoax. Now his brother's like oh my god, I almost lost it. He's like, yeah, that's no flew

Unknown:

his arms. The the one that if you kiss a baby, it can kill. Yes. Okay.

Steve:

Yep. Okay. Ours vivid. Never heard of it. I've heard

Raylene:

it. Because most of us it's just like it's like a head cold. Yeah, sort of we just can't

Steve:

murder a baby.

Raylene:

But but it's a little bizarre. It

Steve:

sounds like STD word shit or not good.

Raylene:

All right, it's a virus. The it just gives you like cough in a lot of indigestion earn indigestion the thing where your face hurts. But pressure, sinus pressure, sinus pressure, but it's not good. There we go. Thanks. Still not as bad as when you guys busted me for meniscus and I was right. I forgot to my God. I will never

Unknown:

forget about but it's It's said to be affecting vulnerable populations. So children's infants and other adults,

Bradford :

which would be probably why it's that

Unknown:

I'm gonna say and I don't know how I feel about COVID and I'm not ready to have like an educated conversation about it. But I worry about headlines like this,

Steve:

right? It just went through all that shit. Like, let's be real. Who gives a fuck about SRV RSV rst. Alright, it doesn't even deserve an acronym respect. That's my point. It's been around for a while now until I start seeing babies dying then who gives a fuck? We just survived COVID 600,000 people just died. So if you want to throw up a number like, Hey, 100,000 people might die 50,000 20,000 then you get my attention. But like

Raylene:

now we're gonna sneeze we're gonna cough.

Steve:

Just stop trying to get like clicks. That's their vaccine. Yeah.

Raylene:

Um, I don't think so. Nope, that's gonna be the new thing. I don't I don't think it killed enough people. For anybody ever worried about a vaccine. It's just until this year.

Steve:

Like you can run through that stuff and see like, like SARS, and rice, all the different fluids that have come a bola like I actually saw one of those stupid memes and they could be manipulating. But I saw one on Facebook the other day, and it was like, each year the different fear that was going to come like the Mayan calendar. And like for like four or five of those on that list over the past 10 years have been a different virus from China. It's all the same thing or a bola from Africa, like these places that are ingrained to trigger us. Right. So like, it comes and goes, but like COVID COVID when I saw in New York, they're like putting bodies in refrigerator trucks. I was like, Well, I'm Ember when COVID first kicked off Wuhan where it started. I remember I started reading about like, Well, that seems weird. I played this really, it sounds sadistic. But I play this app video game where it's called plague. And you can be different virus. It's really shadowy, it's a strategy. Again, it's a strategy game, but you can play all these different viruses and try to do different things and the whole point is to kill everybody in the world. So you learn these different ways it It's crazy, but it's true.

Raylene:

too much time on your it's really hard to estimate more.

Steve:

From this game, I've learned the population on the planet. Aiming for that number. Greenland is a hardest fucking place to kill anybody, which is what's the population the planet? It's roughly a billion. Okay. I don't know what the game that's a lot. So seven, two in the game, but I think it's different people. So what happened was I started going, I was like, well, this is kind of crazy. And I remember reading in the beginning, it said the city of Wuhan and China quarantine us are reading the article. I'm like, Whoa, what's this? 65 million people quarantine think about Manhattan and other

Raylene:

people and then they doesn't even count the people that left before the quarantine start. Manhattan

Steve:

is 5 million people. That's six times New York City quarantine not allowed to leave walled in, in a city and I'm like, well, 65 million. This is what the fuck is that? I remember saying this somebody like and I'm not saying oh, I predicted it. Now. I'm not saying that at all. But I was like, that's kind of crazy, like China, and it's gone out to the public. That 65 million people are quarantined in a city in the in the world. That's nuts, and then blew up. We all know the rest of app.

Bradford :

I know. Let's hope that this doesn't come in. It was quarantined. These people wherever they are, because it goes everywhere. I guess what I mean is let's hope that this hasn't You take it away cuz like they said the CDC is kind of like Alright, this isn't a highly unusual time for this to come about. So I just hope that it's not like some weird mutation The problem is goes up the coast and screws all of us again

Steve:

vouches, my boy, but if a new thing comes, you have to replace those people and put in new people. There's too much trash thrown connected to this to where I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I'm all about science and medication, but like, this shit pops off. And now they're saying this, like, if it went there, I'm not saying it's fine. If it happens again, Oh, those are the people who don't get to put mascots or do social distancing, I would really, I evenly would start leaning like the fuck is going on?

Raylene:

Well, first of all, Fauci predicted this before. I'm so old. No job.

Steve:

I'm not trying to throw shade at Fauci at all.

Raylene:

Yeah, well, I am because he predicted it. And also, he said, Nobody needs masks. And then he said, he does need masks. And then he emailed somebody and said, No, if you get it once, you're probably not going to get it again. And then he reversed that, because that was,

Steve:

remember was during the Trump administration is a lame excuse on I know it, but it's still a factor. But

Unknown:

is it not? Is it not unreasonable for them to be like, it's a new virus, we still don't know yet. We're learning this.

Bradford :

Now, this is what we know now. But

Raylene:

there was a lot of fear mongering and a lot less

Steve:

just hopefully, when everybody did get to that point, again, hopefully, we have now experienced the reality of because China has gone through this multiple times. Right? They wear masks all the time. So like, if this happened again, hopefully, we would be able to react appropriately. And I'm not saying that politically. I mean, like that when it happens. We're not like all this is bullshit. You know, it's like, Alright, well, if we wear masks for three months, we have to wait a year and a fucking half like we did last time. Well, you know,

Unknown:

speaking of some conspiracy theories, there's no good segue right was

Raylene:

so good. You should be a radio. Watch out for your job, man. For you, that was good.

Steve:

Get a second job. That's my tip.

Unknown:

We are waiting. A report from the Department of Defense that is due this month, which is detailing an investigation into UFOs, or unexplained aerial phenomena. Do you guys believe in UFOs course throughout their course.

Steve:

I'm a little maybe I've seen it. It's well, so I'm obsessed with space. I love everything about it. I'm a I like to believe in a lot of things. But I just want to be proven. I'm not a total disbeliever. But you got to give me a little something. So seeing like, Navy pilots report things. That's crazy. You see a lot of different things. So but do I think that the things if they are real overseeing is from outer space? No, I think it's from our planet, which is even more terrifying than that. It's from outer space. But Carl Sagan, the God of outer space, and space said, if the universe is endless, then every possibility is possible. So there's life everywhere, everywhere. So the idea that there's someone with the capabilities to come here if the universe is endless, then statistically through math, that is possible, so not impossible, but have you ever. Um, you want to like a short story? Sure. So I was a kid. I was a little kid. We were high. On mushrooms. I didn't know. I was like seven. I was high on candy and it was Christmas time. So my one of my greatest childhood memories is we go to Charlotte, Vermont, my aunt and uncle's house. It was in the middle of woods, and Champlain. Vermont, right on Lake Champlain at a private house. That's right. Isn't that where Nancy's not? Yes, I would literally go out and look for Nessie. Wow.

Unknown:

I when I was when I was looking at colleges, I was looking at Champlain College and on their campus map they have messy in there

Steve:

actually the town that they really lived in was was Champlain so it wasn't Scotland. I was already know that's the Loch Ness Monster we have our own it's messy. She lives in whatever that leak is when Champlain I smoke weed. Wow. So I'm just before I smoke way too much weed. It was Christmas time. So where I'm seven, eight years old, staying in my cousin's room. He plays video games all night. So we stayed up playing video games. And I remember it was I swear to God, my brother was there. I think he watched it too. I'm sitting there looking out this window laying on the ground. And I see these lights moving through the sky. And I start counting them. And there's eight lights. It's Christmas Eve, man. Oh, man talking rainy right? So I'm watching this and I'm like, Guys, it's Santa. Santa Santa. And we're watching these lights. We're counting them and they're moving around in the sky. Like literally like Santa is doing fucking donuts doing crazy shit. You see in the movies and I remember I have goosebumps like because the realization was goosebumps. I was a kid watching that. And then like into my 20s I went Yeah, I saw Santa one time like what the fuck once I realized did the what the fuck I doubt kids Listen, but that's all I'm gonna say I did the what the fuck and I was like, then what was that? Right right I remember what I can still vividly see because it's New Hampshire or Vermont and is wintertime there's no leaves on the trees and it was windy and the tree branches were moving I could see the lights moving behind.

Raylene:

I think it was like northern lights or anything.

Steve:

No, there were actual lights like with one leading following perfectly Were

Unknown:

there any other like reported sightings? Oh, it's fucking eight. But could you go back now and be like, like she would

Steve:

have been 10 no or five. So there's no one lived out there. They had a mile long driveway and they're the only house and it was like 100 feet away from Lake Champlain.

Raylene:

I do not discredit your story. It sounds

Steve:

well. Well, I'm like that. So like, I'm not saying it's UFO, but if it wasn't

Raylene:

know what, to be fair, it was an identified flying object and you saw it. So that's a UFO. Um,

Unknown:

there's a great podcast called the last podcast on the left. And they are they're always talking about like conspiracy theory. And they did a whole episode on unidentified like water objects. And it's UFOs but they dive into the water.

Steve:

Yeah, they've been reported for a long time.

Unknown:

And like more significantly reported because there's so many Coast Guard and navy professionals.

Steve:

If they're smart enough to do space travel, they know that Oh, these stupid fucks never go in the ocean.

Raylene:

Right? Well I've heard I've heard some stories like my brother is kind of like a weird Yeti guy. He believes in yetis I watch it but it's he what what he's what he thinks is and and then I thought Jesus Christ Why Why is this not something that could be true? You know, sometimes people disappear whenever find a body. Yeah. What if in the world in certain places? There are zones, not the you know, like, you just go through different dimensions, different dimensions. And he my brother thinks that, that the yetis come from another dimension and they just come in and then I can go back through. Right? No, it's fine. I mean, I don't I mean, I don't agree. But I also I'm like, there's just so much I don't

Bradford :

know, but there's a lot of things. Let me throw this out there. All right. You all remember like a few years ago? The flight from crew Rhea

Steve:

Oh, yeah, the thing that went down they

Raylene:

never found they've

Steve:

never found it is the largest heirloom bit like crash investigation.

Raylene:

never found a single shatter of evidence, no rain. And then they made a TV show about an airplane that shows up. So you know, a 20 years later,

Steve:

in my opinion, to all those stories is human arrogance. Right. I just want you to store it was The Conjuring a new conjuring movie, there's a scene Well, if you watch the scene, I don't I don't care. I don't part of our fucking podcast. Okay. So there's a scene where the medium chick goes and tries to recreate there's murder and this girl ends up like getting possessed and kills her friend. And then she just takes off running in the woods as she jumps off this cliff. And she lands at this reservoir. This is like a 20 year old missing persons case and she finds the body so for 20 years, his body has been sitting at the bottom of this reservoir. She was in the random Woods so like to the plane crashing like yeah, it's crazy that we can't find a plane. But we don't if we have no idea was even in the ocean or close to land in the middle literally, where they were was like in that body of ocean like west of Australia, like fucking no one goes out there. Like if you land you're gonna sing. And now I get it how like, hey, things float and peep things go around. But I think human arrogance doesn't understand still the gigantism of the planet that we live on.

Bradford :

I just, there are some parts on airplanes that when you hit the water at that speed Park, they flow, they flow I get it. They can't find those pieces. I get it. But I'm just like,

Steve:

they would have wanted imagine there's imagine there's a five foot section of the wing floating in that x section of the ocean I just described. And now you're looking at plane people. They know what plane has crashed. And but I

Unknown:

think as humans we want we want that finality, we want that concreteness and like I'm a big True Crime person. There's more and Marie like she just got in a car accident and fucking disappeared. They've never found her. They've no idea where she is. There's other ones where it's like, she's on another planet.

Steve:

But some but some weirdo could have found her and locked her in is like there's I hate always to be that person. But like, I'm down for the evidence to show it to me, but I'm always gonna lean towards like the most obvious solution and then prove me wrong and I'll go on the ride.

Raylene:

But on this whole subject, how do we feel about mediums? I

Bradford :

totally agree there.

Steve:

I think a lot of them are fake. But there's a lot of crazy things like the reason why I watch a Condrey. I'm a pussy with horror movies. And I was at my friend's apartment. I was at my friend's house a day and he just started it and I was like, Oh my god, I can't watch these. And I'm watching it. And he's like, they say, Lorraine Warren. I'm like, Wait, is that like the medium Lorraine Warren they're like, yeah, it's about like one of their cases on like, Oh, this is what these movies are about. Because like I'm obsessed with ghosts because I don't believe in them. But I do because there's this crazy thing that so close, but like we'll never know. But there's evidence here but there's never enough to prove it. I feel like for myself, I have to literally see or experience something that I can't explain in order to make it work. So a lot of mediums probably have you seen a good medium,

Raylene:

I have never seen a medium because because I was raised boring and Christian, that should still freaks me out. But I have a story that is auto explainable. And it was my uncle David had passed away. And I wanted to send a card to my aunt Caroline. And I kept thinking like every night, like, oh, you're going to sell that car tomorrow, you need to set up carnival. And like for seven days in a row, I was like, you have to send that card. So then I'm sitting there at my desk, and I'm like, I'm gonna send a card. But what day did uncle David die. And I'm just sitting there trying to remember it. And out of nowhere, in there's nowhere on my desk to sing could have fallen, you know, the little cards they give out at

Steve:

funerals, you always throw that in a random place, you're never gonna look at it again. But you can't throw it away,

Raylene:

floated down and landed in front of me. While I was trying to remember what day he died, and it was like two days later, so I was like, Okay, got to get that card in the mail right now. And then I mailed it. And I was like, and then I was like, thanks, Uncle David. And then I just moved on, because there's like, where, how, how did this card from my desk just fall and land on my desk at the exact moment, I was trying to remember what day he died.

Unknown:

I've seen a couple mediums and I've had, like, I lost my sister. So I've had a couple of experiences where they brought stuff up, that have been unique about my sister, but not like, so unique. You know, I think there's still some suspicion whether or not they're just fucking with me. So I expense

Steve:

I watch this thing because I'm, like I said, I'm always a skeptic. But it just because my scientific brain goes there. And I would love to go down that road, I would love to find out all the crazy things that exist. So like, I watch these two different things in one week. And I like to just like veg out on weird random documentary. So I learned about mediums and the genetic connection and like the female connection, how it's always like a grandmother mother, a daughter. It's like this hereditary thing through females in the family. And I learned about how like, two year olds and brain development works as you as you develop as a kid. So I learned about the mediums and it was like, Hey, isn't this weird that like all these families of all these mediums in and then in the same week, I learned that as a brain develops, you have all your connections, your brain are open. And as you start using things, evolution takes control and the things that you don't use, it cuts off because you don't need to bother the energy with it. So it detaches. And that's shut off forever. That connection never happens. And there's no there's no Reed's turning this on right evolution, like rain is like, fuck this whole section, we'll use it. So think about it. How many kids have invisible friends, right? How many kids see things in the closet? Now when they go and tell their parents? What are their parents say, that's not real. That's not true. So after all, this conditioning of that's not real, that's not real. This spirit that's trying to talk to you, is now being ignored. And they're eventually going to stop now run that back to the hereditary thing. Now, if you're a medium if your grandma's a medium, your mom's a medium and I'm a daughter and I see a little girl in my room. Hey, there's a little girl in a room that wants to play well, they're not gonna say, that's not real, right? They're gonna say that is a girl ask her what they are. But you have to be careful, honey, this and that. So that connection doesn't get shut off. It gets connected. And that's so like, between those two random things. That's why like medium is run through that shit. So just based off that, like this was a documentary, no, just two completely different things I watched I just randomly connected like a couple weeks later. It was like the one that happened. It was a boring documentary about brain development and children and then like a weird History Channel kind of thing. Like, why are mediums and families and it was really hokey and shitty, but just the connection to things like me just snapped in my head. And I'm like, well, that kind of makes sense. Think about dogs, sigma animals. Right? Right, they can see things. So again, back to human arrogance. Again, we think we know everything. We think that everything is done, and there's we're not even close. We're like at 1% on that load bar.

Bradford :

Right? To bring it back. Just real quick, though, to aliens. Just you know, not to smash people's dreams. But the report that's coming out based on where, according to us senior official says at any hopes that the report would confirm that alien visitors to our atmosphere have been dashed from this report. So I interpret that a different way though. I interpret that as been

Raylene:

dead for there to be vague. We took that part out

Bradford :

yet but nope. Here's my point, though. dashed. Here's my point, right? Go try to think about this, right? The answer is no. Just Say No. But they've clearly got something to hide. So they're dashing it out. Right? So that confirms that there are aliens. That's my point, there are redacted, redacted,

Steve:

delete things about this is that the what they're going to release is not that we know aliens exist, what they're going to say. It's again, more terrifying than really aliens exist or like, aliens don't exist. But the Russians or Chinese have figured out this technology, and we don't have it like that is fucking terrible.

Raylene:

That's terrible. Anybody believe there's a race of lizards that are living among us? All right.

Steve:

I know every great civilization falls throughout history, and they don't last forever.

Raylene:

So lucky. He's not saying anything. I am so

Bradford :

crazy. You know, I don't believe that. They're

Raylene:

my mom's RH negative. And I would 100% believe she's a lizard. Oh,

Steve:

my God. People have a lot of free time in the internet.

Unknown:

That's true. Well, what that will take a little bit of a break to compose our Sauerwein to refill our wine and our busy cherries. And we'll catch you on the other side of the commercial.

Raylene:

Curtis, where were you? I thought you were gonna miss the podcast.

Unknown:

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Raylene:

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Unknown:

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Keith:

you're listening to undebatable here's Raylene Curtis, Steve and Bradford.

Unknown:

Were back and a little bit drunker. That's a bad thing. No, we're feeling it. Oh, yeah, it's good loving it. And I'm totally going to try not to dominate our next topic because it's right up my alley. HR Queen

Steve:

defended.

Unknown:

No, no, no, but I'm gonna like try really hard not to like slap some legal knowledge to his legal knowledge. So it's really funny because Steve shared this as his topic. Should you discuss your salary with your coworkers?

Steve:

taboo thing? Like Yeah, he's like, insane.

Unknown:

And then there, there's this photo floating around on the internet and use Raylene Santa, I sought to where it's an employer who's basically saying you cannot talk your pay with your cup. Doesn't

Steve:

that just make you want to Google labor laws? Right? Right. instantly. It was on a fucking bulletin board.

Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. And it's, you know, it's, I work with a lot of small businesses and they want to control right, it's all about control for them. They want to control people now they're wondering why know if he's making 50

Raylene:

cents more an hour, the other guy might want 50 cents more an hour, and that's gonna affect our bottom line. But

Unknown:

it's also the fear of not being able to have an honest conversation with someone about why they don't deserve that. 50 cents extra. Right, you know, but what do you guys think as as people that work? I don't know, man.

Steve:

Listen, we'll let Bradford go.

Bradford :

Here's the deal. And I'm gonna I'm gonna make a jab at my, my own kind of fuel. I'm on time, yay, dang. Oh, I remember my family, family business owners. Oh, millennial millennials. We were kind of a special breed. You know, we, and this is me. But a lot of millennials are like, it's not fair. You know, because we all got trophies even when we were losers in sports. I didn't. We all got

Raylene:

my kids did not be like bandits

Bradford :

are in that, you know, our co worker might have maybe a few more years of experience or perhaps actually went to school for what they're doing. And thus, their employer or our mutual employer might give them more per hour. Well, guess what? They deserve it. And life's not fair. If you maybe worked harder. Maybe we're in the professional a bit longer. Maybe you went to school, you too could make that art.

Raylene:

Well, what about if you bargained for it that way? The other thing, and this is the thing that women I know, traditionally make less money because we don't advocate for ourselves and ask for more and demand more. And then we find out that Steve is making two and a half dollars more than us for the same frickin job. Give him the face. But the thing is, and I tell my daughters this because I have all daughters, and I'm like, and this is tradition, men will apply for jobs that they're only 50% qualified for, but women will not apply for jobs unless they're like 75 to 80% of qualifying once they're hot. And then 50% of the 50% guys are like, I want the max that this job pays. Because you guys have.

Steve:

So it. This is a huge like, this is the topic, let's make it super simple. You have a co worker, right? You both started the same fucking day you do the same job. You're both 100% equal. If you guys never have that conversation, you don't know that that dude, next you came from a company that was paying him 80 grand. And you started at 40? Well, they're desperate to hire people. So when they hired the guy next to you, they just throw 80 grand Well, you're making 40 now if you'd never have that conversation, right? You have no fucking clue

Raylene:

why 180 grand,

Steve:

but, but they offered 40 to the regular guy off the trees desperate for a job, right? So again, simplify this what what ifs? So in fact, those two people have the conversation. Well, now instantly I go Yo, boss, he's making twice as much money as me, I'm doing the same job. You can go throw in these extra factors. I go all the conditions, but Okay, well give me 60 that. So just having the conversation, lets people know you're empowering the employer by not having that conversation.

Bradford :

I hit me with the facts. Is this legal or illegal? First of all, for for a company.

Unknown:

So generally, across the board, like Connecticut has laws, employment laws on the books that makes it illegal for an employer to say you cannot talk about pay. It's like first amendment rights, actually just passed a piece of legislation that goes into effect in October, that that gives the candidate or gives the employee a little bit more power in that conversation that if an employee asks the employer is legally obligated to share with them, the wage structure or the wage ban,

Steve:

it's deception. And it's balancing out the for the worker.

Unknown:

There's also the National Labor Relations Act, which is at play here. So National Labor Relations Act protects what we call concerted activity. So that's generally like high level description, one, two employees or one one employee in another, advocating for pay hours working conditions. So like terms of terms of employment. So like, if you have two employees that are discussing their pay, it would likely if that ever went to court, it would likely be viewed as protected activity under the National Labor Relations Act. Got it.

Steve:

Okay. But it might not be that way.

Unknown:

I mean, National Labor Relations Act has been in effect for ever, I will tell you from a small business perspective, they have no fucking idea if they don't have. So here's the thing, National Labor Relations Act covers unions, right. it governs the relationship between a union and an employer. There's still protections for employees, even if there's not a union, and

Steve:

with all the things that you just described in place, it's still unheard of. Oh, yeah. It's the the thumb over the little person that the employer always has is that well, I can fire you. I'm giving you this. So you have your dispensable and kiss my replaceable, whatever crumbs you get. I've used this analogy forever. They have the whole pizza. And I'm talking about the elite people, the people that run businesses and everything. They have the whole pizza, and they throw us crust and we go Thanks for the crust. Like I mean, if we, if we? Well, I'd rather have a whole fucking pizza, because I have a family to feed and they can they can eat off the pizza, not the crust.

Raylene:

So I have a conversation with your co worker, is this how it happened? And you find out No, I'm

Steve:

just, I've just always thought this for CEB for literally as long as I possibly could understand.

Raylene:

I mean, it's she's the showrunner and you're the sidekick. So do you guys still get paid the same?

Steve:

I don't know. Because we don't have that conversation.

Raylene:

Oh, but you should. So

Steve:

if I had the conversation, and I know it, I can go use it against my boss. And vice versa. Because if you do the same job power, it always our employer always wants to control you. And make I agree, psychologically that you owe them something. So how dare you find out what I pay other people and use it against me to benefit your life and your family? How dare you

Raylene:

if I was ever taken advantage of somebody who was slower and dumber than you? Like? I mean, I was just thinking, like, if I owned a business, and like, like, let's just say I paid pebbles. I'm just gonna make up numbers. You keep

Steve:

throwing shots at me, like very picking up on every single one of them.

Raylene:

I apologize. It's because you started the conversation. But, you know, like, let's just say I paid pebbles $20 an hour and then you were willing to work for $15 an hour. And well, and I'm like, cool. Like you'll work for 15 No, no, no.

Steve:

No, let me go against it. So when me and 500 other people audition for a job, and I say job pays 15 I say I want 20 Well, guess what? I'm not getting the fucking job or gonna pay someone 15

Raylene:

It depends on the job. Because or they could be looking for somebody, this isn't about us, and somebody who understands their value. And when you say,

Steve:

psychologically, you're protecting the employer, because we've been ingrained to do that. Also, you're making an assumption. So are the employer

Raylene:

I owe, I determine how much I'm worth what

Steve:

we're talking about is when two people are working in this same place,

Raylene:

they're always gonna hire the person who's willing to work for less.

Steve:

Again, this is my point, like, half the time I always talk on here. I know we support and big business, we give these elites, this subconscious psychological, just bowing down whenever we understood that it's literally and I hate to say like this, us against them, right. The world changing. They're the Democrats, Republicans, independents, it's classes.

Raylene:

They're the one class

Steve:

warfare and I don't mean it like that. No, but it's us against them, because they've been fucking destroying us for so many years. Steve,

Raylene:

you have to understand that I 100% agree with you. It's us against them. And they started it. Yeah, but

Steve:

we're still sitting here

Raylene:

I stepped out of it. See, there's kind of like where I think is like I stepped out of it. I'm I will not work with the majority of America.

Unknown:

Right, man give a a human resources perspective.

Raylene:

It just triggers its literal charge. And I think that's why I feel like you and I argue so much about the dumb shit, because I agree with you. But I also see the other side. And also I stepped away. I was like, I will not get paid less than I'm worth. I would literally rather just

Steve:

not work but some people financially. And I'm not saying like, you know, you have that situation. I don't have that option. I'm just trapped. Like so many people are trapped in there I agree with and is that the American dream? You're supposed to live 40 hours a week. And that's supposed to be able to afford you a house with a wife and kids. No, but no, no, no, this is our weak thing is this. We were We were told and we still sell to the rest of

Raylene:

the world that the union did the 40 hours a week thing?

Steve:

No, the American dream. No, the America the American dream, the white picket fence, the family, the car, no, some people never work for that. So we sold in the 50 to 90 or 10, because we developed a country that could sustain that, right? understood what needed to be done. And we've never shifted since then. And the richer have gotten richer, and everybody else stayed right there.

Unknown:

What's the HR there? And I don't see it a lot. But there are companies that are a bit more progressive that do share at least their pay scales transparent, you think? Yeah, and if you think about a union environment, like like, I'm an I'm a teacher, so I teach at that the college level, my pay is written and anyone can go Google that contract,

Steve:

does that make you feel better or worse?

Raylene:

$5 a day.

Unknown:

I mean, I honestly, I haven't 50 an hour, I have the mindset of a business owner. So it's a little bit more challenging. For me, I remember one time that I was teaching and the I don't keep my students the whole time, don't tell anybody because I teach late.

Steve:

So that number is going down on

Unknown:

leaving as leaving class one day, and there's this guy sitting outside, he's like Professor Dell, and I was like, all Fuck, I'm getting fired. And

Steve:

your name is Professor, your

Raylene:

professor.

Unknown:

And he he was from the union. And he was like, you know, he's like, we're coming up to contract negotiations, is there anything that you need from us, and I was like, I literally get paid really well, for just teaching a class or two, like, I don't need anything. So I have a different mindset than I think a lot of other people have, or the, you know, the regular employee who's working a nine to five.

Steve:

And I don't mean to be like, screw everybody else's lives. But that's really like the importance because the regular nine to five is the majority of the American public. And,

Unknown:

and so it's it's HR is in a tricky predicament. And I know I've experienced this as a female where I've, I've been negotiating with candidates who are women. And they'll be like, well, I don't want to, you know, I want to, I don't want to ask for too much. And I always say to them, I said, Listen, put it out there, the worst that will say is, in that situation,

Steve:

I don't know if like you do a hiring process. But in that situation with people that just ask for a number how many people get it?

Unknown:

If it's a really good fucking candidate, like

Steve:

if they're not insane, like, Hey, we're offering you $50, I want 150 you get a reasonable request, if

Unknown:

it's a reasonable request, they have, you know, experience or education to back it up. And there are really good candidate. Absolutely. It's also not a hard, fast rule. So like I've done negotiations, where it's like, we can't do that right away. But we promise you after 90 days, we'll do an evaluation. And if it's positive, then we'll give it to you.

Steve:

What's the strategy? And honestly, what's the strategy of the hrs department? Like, what is your strategy to pay them as little as possible? I don't mean that like insulting, like, No,

Unknown:

I mean, like, we're not, we're not incentivized. We're not like HR is not incentivized to keep labor low. That's not really our responsibility. Our responsibility is to keep the business out of trouble. You know what I mean? So really, that that my good can't that mindset of paying people just the bare minimum that, unfortunately can come from top management and leadership. And that's where the issue lies is they're trying to pinch as much as they possibly can. And, and I've had people ask for raises, and you have to go back to them and say, we can't give you that. Here's why. There's other things that we need you to work on, or that's the top of our pay scale. And here's the pay scale

Raylene:

is is a read and you need to work yourself into a better position they

Steve:

get to see the salaries of the people in the pay scale. Sure. That's totally correct way

Unknown:

to do business. Speaking of working yourself into another position.

Raylene:

I went there somebody's getting me more than Probably, yeah, there were some at all.

Steve:

There's one outside a bar that I think that might just be used.

Raylene:

If you delete that I will murder you know, I

Bradford :

just there was another time earlier where there was like a silence and I just wanted to be like,

Steve:

but I was very adamant about doing it. Not eating your butthole Yeah, like I kept saying, like, I don't even want to say very, let's get back to the topic. It was in front of a bar and mistake

Unknown:

someone did get in a predicament and did get eaten over this past week. There were two crazy news stories. One was the lobster diver who literally got swallowed by a frickin

Raylene:

Jonah was his name Jonah. His

Steve:

name should be Jonah. Jonah. already use my semen joke would have been way better.

Unknown:

Then there was another story. It's a tick tock story of this girl who got stuck in a folding chair and had to call the fire door right?

Raylene:

Yeah, no, she was doing some sort of sex act.

Steve:

Like only fan she has a fetish page, right? Yeah, she's a sextant. She works really hard. Her name is Rebecca and she lives in New Jersey

Raylene:

and you're friends with her and only friends

Steve:

at work the funniest thing is that like we should really talk about

Raylene:

it at work because I posted it

Steve:

No It comes in my profit printer all this crazy shit all ties. So like we should talk about the whale but like we might as well just get this duck chick out of the way. So there's like this weird fetish of ice. I explained to my co said that she's very reserved and like, she's open to the world was just reserved. Yeah, but like, I I've been out there and she really hasn't so I'm like the one I'm the education part. So I'm like, I'm I guess so like there's this weird fetish and I see it online when I'm looking. When I'm spending like two hours to find that perfect porn video we all do it. And I see things of like, step mom gets stuck in sync. And then I bang or like do all of that it's fucking weird. How do you get stuck in it syncs first off and then really what you're promoting is fucking like you're you're you're raping people. When their stepmom gets stuck in couch How the fuck you get stuck in a couch so this is what this chick has

Unknown:

seen the one with the dry I mean

Steve:

Hancock dryer is semi reasonable but like stuck there's it's got to be really hot in there the laundry just finished and where's the laundry? Exactly. Okay, yes, I watched the dryer Why? I guess I've watched the dryer one ratted myself out. But like it's so she does this live? She does this live stream? She was she was hot in the dryer. Smells nice.

Raylene:

Do smell nice. Is that a sensory porn experience? Exactly.

Steve:

All created inside my brain? Man.

Raylene:

You know what he did? He watched it while sniffing a bounce dryer.

Steve:

I don't I don't I don't need it. It's built in the past the past. The past few girls I've dated aren't down with a dryer sheets like Yo, can I just oh my god dryer sheets real quick. Rain fresh. Well, that's the point why

Raylene:

almost spit your wine.

Steve:

She does this live stream and she gets stuck in things. Sex education. Oh, there's still no answer to

Raylene:

this sex education and I've never been stuck in a chair.

Steve:

There's still no answer this the fact that she was stuck might lead to the point that she can't get to a phone. So like the people watching the livestream are like Hey, are you okay? And she started like she knew she was fine. I didn't watch this but think about a psychological 499 this these dudes came for cheap to get

Raylene:

a space group these guys came this chicks poppin sharees This is a great episode.

Steve:

These dude showed up for a chance to get stuck in a fake situation. And the fire department showed up

Raylene:

like was it right doesn't know he was actually stopped. Oh

Steve:

shoot legit got stuck by how the fire department get there. She can't call them. They call them people she

Raylene:

was saying in the lawn chair. Whoa. She had

Steve:

to say her address.

Unknown:

Listen, I'm a super fucking bad bunny. Oh, you're right. Give them an edge bunny. So why do I know that? It's like someone who's super attracted to like firefighters cops EMT you know, I

Raylene:

used to be firefighter and an EMT right?

Steve:

fired. masturbate to someone getting fucked in a draw. I didn't. I didn't finish it was weird. It's now and it didn't feel as good I can see the gap and her hips I know she can get out. Let's talk about let's talk about getting swallowed by the way.

Raylene:

Sorry about getting swallowed up. Can you imagine?

Bradford :

First of all not I have to nerd out here first. This was a humpback whale. This

Raylene:

is such a Bible story also like in Massachusetts right?

Bradford :

off the bat. Okay, first of all, yeah, Provincetown nonetheless. Oh, talk about slowing going on there. And listen, Pride Month. So let's

Raylene:

see, this could be my favorite podcast we've done in the 52 weeks we've been doing there are 2829 30 Steve's out here to tell us which one is 2626 so it's not 26 Yeah, go back. Yeah. Okay, seriously. This is bringing back my RSV cough.

Steve:

last podcast we make sure you check the explicit. Right, exactly.

Bradford :

So this is a humpback? Well, they have a llama not teeth. Bailey. Crow. It's like, you know, have you ever looked at the bottom of one of those old school bro?

Steve:

You guys don't know what the fuck a humpback whale leads?

Raylene:

No, like curl. Yeah,

Steve:

I just said it. I just said it. That's not fair. So I know krill. But

Raylene:

I didn't know they also didn't have teeth.

Bradford :

They don't have teeth. So they've got so much like I call it the bottom of a broom. Because that's the best way to describe

Steve:

these characters like your eyelashes, like three feet deep

Bradford :

and super thick. Right? So it's

Steve:

really weirds me out when you know shit like this. So just stop watching fucking Downtown Abbey and you'll be

Raylene:

down to nab. That was my point.

Bradford :

They'll take a scoop of ocean water and then come up to the surface and all the water drains and their Beilein kind of intertwine and traps like a strainer and pasta. It traps all the krill and the train so plankton and everything's wild, like seeds swallows it whole. Well, it's well this guy whole

Steve:

makes sense because like the way humpback whales actually get food is like so all the krill and all that plankton gets in these food balls, and all the little fish are getting on the seagulls are shooting down from the top and when the whales do is a shoot up from the bottom open their mouth and like taking the whole entire thing. If you're a whale and you look up, you see this black mass, you're like a fucking little fucking pool of fish. I'm gonna snag this shit up and it grabbed it up. So the guy except

Bradford :

he was down at 4045 feet. He

Steve:

was scuba diving. He's getting lobster traps, he literally said, All I saw was black. And I felt like I got hit by a truck. Right? Oh, he said the next thing I knew. It felt like the whale didn't want me in its mouth because I obviously couldn't fucking swallow him. Right? And wait, could it go? Fine? No, actually not with the scientists. Now the reason why he's not fucking dead is because it couldn't swallow

Raylene:

some pretty big pills, but sometimes I go right so maybe that's what happened. Well,

Steve:

gosh is too big. Here's an analogy. Thanks. Think about the quantity of there's

Raylene:

no way this is not be dirty. Sorry, semen and swallowing.

Steve:

But salmon is liquid and a pill is hard. Now say your throat is only a certain size chain shaker and make it through the hole. That pill may be too big so he represented the bank couldn't get him and what to do as a humpback came all the way up to the top. shook his fucking head. It was I can't swallow you, bro.

Raylene:

You know how many times I've told you bro you bro. I'm telling you the story this time I

Steve:

tried. And he came to the surface and spit. We've seen it multiple times. All the time. Tell him to do it. Like oh my god. That's what happened. He couldn't get it down. I am choked on

Raylene:

a tiny bit arouse and a lot grossed out by all of this. So here's the good news though. Yeah, see both.

Bradford :

They both serve. I just say you could feel the whales like mouth muscles trying to push it down like towards the throat couldn't fit. And he was just like bang and like, oh, let me out bro. He was he was

Steve:

well, 10 inch dildo or what do you know and do some practice?

Bradford :

Save a 13 foot deck.

Raylene:

completely out of the

Unknown:

whale Brad Bird that this is going to become a movie. Now, right? No.

Raylene:

It's a Bible. It's Jonah.

Steve:

Listen, every interview this guy did. He was sitting on a curb in a parking lot. And he looked like he didn't want it. Talk to another human for the rest of his Yes, because he's like I got snow. The reality is we look at the story. We're like, yo, that's crazy. He was 45 feet deep and dark water in Massachusetts and he got swallowed by a whale. And he literally said to himself, his name is Michael. He said, Oh, Michael, this is how you go. He had he thought he was in a great white sharks mouth. And then he said, I fell. He literally said, Sorry, I felt around shark. He said, I felt around and didn't feel teeth and knew I wasn't in the shark's mouth. And the next thing I knew I was at the surface and it shook his head and it threw me like 20 fucking feet.

Raylene:

I don't know. I feel a little bit hurt that I got spit out. Taste good enough. Like Like, I feel like I taste pretty good. Oh, man. Thanks for mowing me sweat so much. The wine it's Yeah. Wow. That's I fuckin love this podcast so much some fun topic. We

Bradford :

do have fun. This is why you should share this with people. Right? So I got hired before this. Thanks for sharing.

Raylene:

Okay. You said share. He didn't share the high with me.

Unknown:

I have to say so I was telling everybody earlier how nervous I was about having to like drive the episode and I bought like, two bottles of like in line about busy treasuries. I bought Ice. Ice.

Raylene:

Maybe it's in the freezer. Maybe that's why the episode was so good. It was a boozy,

Bradford :

boozy cherries from now on.

Steve:

I have boozy coffee. I don't know why people have so much trouble talking into a microphone. You just please know we don't have don't have don't credit my anxiety. Don't minimize my anxiety. You're not a talker.

Raylene:

You are the straight man on your other show. This one we all have to be funny.

Steve:

What am I a gay man on this show? bradfords again, that's me. Hi. Hey. Am I not? Do I not represent straight white America? That's what I do supposed to speak for? straight white and under every opportunity as a straight white American. I'm proud of it.

Raylene:

Oh my god. No, you make me happy. I like how eyes are gray. No, I really. I like zoning on old white guy you are? Is it the joy within your week?

Steve:

It's not it's not anything special. We all have that capability to understand our history and not be guilty about it. I keep we keep saying we have no time about this. But we it's all this guilt, guilt, guilt. Well, guilt is not a fact. Guilt is an emotional feeling if you feel guilty about so let me explore that.

Raylene:

I'm just saying I like I like you as a person. I like arguing with you. I like making jokes with you. I like you.

Unknown:

Bankers this weekend, actually. And I was telling them how smart you are.

Bradford :

I barely graduate you are genius. You are super, very, very. You know what you are though you have life smarts, because I think it's your lock. Mark.

Steve:

But you know, I have succeeded in life by understanding human nature. Oh, no, sometimes manipulating that to my benefit. And as you're a white guy. And I also have the white guy thing. And I preach that all the time. If I was only rich, I would be the fucking president of the world.

Raylene:

Only you can sell sex toys.

Unknown:

Well, thank you guys, for listening to this show. We had fun. make us rich. Join the Patreon engage with us on social. And yeah, thanks for listening. I love you. Bye.

Keith:

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