Jan. 19, 2021

Counting Stars

Counting Stars

In this very special and hilarious episode of Undebatable, we talk with renowned Astrologist - Astrologer Anne. She talks live with our callers to answer questions they have as they seek the help and guidance from the stars.  Our hot topics are also super fun. We discuss: Bitcoin and Crypto Currency and what happens when you loose it all. We discuss a man found living in a secure area of Chicago's airport illegally for three months and lastly, the epic steps a young woman took to glitter bomb her ex boyfriends apartment after he cheated on her. Don't miss out on all the fun and laughs in this addition of Undebatable. 

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Keith:

trivia time. What happens when you put for highly opinionated friends for microphones and breaking news and controversial topics in a blender? You get one hell of a podcast. This is undebatable A hysterical and thought provoking podcast that sees for friends from different backgrounds debate hot button issues that affect our modern world hot button issues. For quick witted hosts, if it's political news, pop culture news or weird news, we're talking about it. This is undebatable and here are your hosts Raylene Curtis, Steve and bird yo.

Raylene:

Almost slept right through that one.

Steve:

That was a funny pun Raylene? Welcome, welcome. Wake up. It is Episode 14 of the undebatable podcast. And in inverted nap before this happened, I was a little bit late. But before we get into any of that stuff, I do want to remind you that you should share a podcast. Be sure to share the undebatable podcast with your friends and family. You can also connect with us and let us know your thoughts on this week's hot topics. You can weigh in on the conversation at undebatable dot show. To make it even easier. We included the link right in the show notes below. And you can also support please support our podcast become a member of the undebatable Patreon page, where you will have all the access exclusive looks behind the scenes view extra videos photos discounted merge and so much more the link to for our Patreon page also will be found in the show links down below. Yes, so I am very rested. They're calling me old if I wake up early in the morning and I go to sleep late somehow. So I know when a nurse a nurse, a nap is creeping creeping up on me. So for some reason, I guess I'm old I was I hey, I should set my alarm. And I'll set it for five so I'm not late because the podcast is at six. Well now it starts at five so I woke up to Bradford calling me Steve, are you okay? Oh my god. I'm in my chair. I like to bring wine to and thank God for thank God for Raylene and Bradford. Curtis is on the phone, not here. But if he was here, he would have rescued me too.

Raylene:

It's so funny that Bradford was like I hope he's okay. And I was like he's napping and he's like, No, I'm gonna call him I wonder if he's okay. And I'm like, I guarantee you he's napping. So then he gets back and he's like, Yeah, he said he was just sitting in his chair. And I'm like, that's all man code for you was napping, right? I have a husband. I know what it looks like. Right before this. I was watching my last Christmas movie that was left on my DVR. That's how far behind I am on because bridgerton messed it all up.

Bradford :

Oh Bridger. 10. You know, I have to say, if you haven't seen bridgerton you need to watch it. And if you don't have Netflix, it's it's really the reason to get Netflix. It's worth it. Curtis and Raylene are responsible for the fact that I have very little sleep because I was up until 230 in the morning, watching that darn show and I kept saying, no, what, one more episode. Now just one more. And then it just got better and better. I'm like, I can't do this. And finally, like I looked over at my husband, and like he was getting kind of moody. He's like, I want to I have to work tomorrow. And I'm like, I do too. I've got the podcast. He's like, Yeah, right. Anyway,

Steve:

at six o'clock at night,

Raylene:

right? So my husband is like, what are you doing today? And I'm like, Well, I'm getting a haircut. And then I have a podcast. He says what times podcasts only same time it is every Tuesday and he goes so you're doing nothing. And I'm like, No, I'm getting caught up on my TV. or watching a

Steve:

Christmas movie. What do you think

Raylene:

yesterday I watched all the all the episodes that I had recorded of the married at first sight show. And let's say I was watching the Christmas movie.

Steve:

I've been on a lot of serial killer stuff. I've been on a podcast. It's second two hours, but it's pretty good. That I watch a bunch of Netflix I'm really concerned if like the FBI checks on me because I went through a bunch of things and then I watched a couple like unabomber here and you're on a watch. I'm very concerned. I'm really a good guy. I'm just curious about stuff. I

Raylene:

don't I don't think they have to search I think they just have a database and like okay, watch this when he's getting a little cray cray. Well,

Steve:

we are. We are gonna Curtis Where are you in the world? Actually,

Unknown:

I am currently in Stanford on my way to New Jersey. You were like I'm sorry about Waldo.

Steve:

Like who you're like Waldo or maybe like Carmen San Diego.

Unknown:

Ah, Waldo. I

Raylene:

don't think I dress like Waldo. Oh, you're saying you're hard to find.

Steve:

Yeah. And we never know where you are.

Unknown:

Right? always easy to spot. Waldo Are

Bradford :

you kidding me? That guy stumped me so many times every time I find a Moloch there you are You idiot. You've been hiding.

Raylene:

Anytime I see one of those things. It's like, you know, like, it's a whole bunch of panda bears and it says, Can you find the penguin? And I'm like, Yeah, right fucking they're like, I don't understand why in those you can't see it because especially if they're patterned I will pick it out in a second.

Steve:

I just go Nope. And turn the page. Yeah,

Raylene:

yeah, I can't do those 3d puzzles though. Have you ever done the 3d ones that they used to print in the newspaper? Never could do a 3d one. My eyes are just like no bitch

Steve:

that just made people get dumb ass that's probably cross your eyes and put it an inch away from your face and then move back moving forward. Over sideways. Shake your head. Just a way to look stupid.

Bradford :

I used to think I was like I had some powers or something I on Facebook the other day. It was one of those puzzles that's got like 9999999 and you got to find the one eight.

Unknown:

Yeah, yeah, it's very easy.

Bradford :

I found it instantly and I was so shocked that I'm like maybe there's

Steve:

maybe there's just like a really nice guy out there somewhere making these look very complicated, but they're really easy just so that when we run across what I found the eight in two seconds right? You feel good about yourself. There you go. Doing a good service.

Raylene:

Or or other people are stupid and we're just really fucking smart. Probably that that's what I'm leaning towards that. How about you Bradford?

Unknown:

Yeah, absolutely. I'm a genius.

Steve:

Well are geniuses we have a good show lined up. We're gonna get into it. We'd have a great guest. She is an astrologer. And we will be asking her all about astrology and even taking some calls from listeners. Her name is Anna nordeste bike, and we'll be talking to her later. But what we got lined up for the show, a woman was cheated on by her boyfriend so she took an obscene amount of glitter and covered everything in his apartment. A man was found living in the Chicago airport for three months. Wonder if he had to pay any rent. And man makes last ditch effort to recover over $280 million in Bitcoin that he accidentally threw out now Is anybody here familiar with Bitcoin? Like how it works? Now all this

Raylene:

I know what it is. I don't understand anything else about it.

Bradford :

I'm with a railing I've heard the word cryptocurrency which I believe is right that is but outside of that I know nothing.

Raylene:

There's actually two huge stories right now going on. One of them is this guy chucked out his hard drive that's got his crypto key to get into his thing. And and the other one is you only get 10 chances with your password and on the 10th try if you don't get it your cryptocurrency is gone.

Steve:

Yeah, the account gets encrypted and like locked for forever

Raylene:

Forever. So any cryptocurrency that you have is like gone and and you know so that's why to me all of this is just magic money that doesn't really exist. these motherfuckers are playing magic cards and they've got the sort of Zelda hidden somewhere and they think it's important

Steve:

See I I walked into a gas station today I saw Bitcoin ATM. No way. I swear to God,

Raylene:

well, well, what do you put in to get it out?

Steve:

It blew my mind. I was like, well, you can get money from this.

Raylene:

Well, now that seems more real. What gas station? Was this? Are you? Was it in your nap? It was during your nap wasn't I was in ledger.

Unknown:

I was trying to figure out some stuff about like,

Steve:

floated in on the cloud.

Unknown:

Do you guys have invested in Bitcoin at all? No. Oh,

Steve:

I thought you would have been Wait,

Unknown:

wait, have you? Yeah, I believe I do believe there's a future in digital currency. That's separate separated from the World Bank. So I did put a little bit into it. And just went down in terms of the stock market. I didn't put a lot. I don't think I don't I'm not too certain of how much of the future of cryptocurrency will have. But I do know it will play a vital role in our economics moving forward.

Raylene:

Well, how do you get the money out of like an ATM?

Unknown:

I've never used it in terms of a transaction. I've done it in terms of trading and settling in the stock market.

Bradford :

All right, my guess is you've got a login on ATM to your cryptocurrency account. Watch out, you only got 10 times.

Raylene:

I can't even remember my four digit PIN number. I am not dealing with anything that's 27 keys with A through Z and all

Unknown:

right, it's no different I'm sure it's no different than using a regular ATM card accepted, you know cryptocurrency and not regulated by a Bank of England or America for that matter.

Steve:

Do you feel like at some point like the government or even like the World Bank could be like we're done and just shut it down

Raylene:

the cryptocurrency or regular currency

Steve:

the cryptocurrency? I don't

Raylene:

think they have access to it today.

Unknown:

No, I don't think you can't do that.

Raylene:

I mean, people can take it, you know, like, you know, during a pandemic, nobody was taking cash anymore.

Steve:

Like, is there a way that the world governments really we don't recognize this as currency doesn't transfer with our money so they could just blackball amount,

Raylene:

like can't pay taxes with it, but you can certainly pay another motherfucker who takes cryptocurrency

Unknown:

so like nothing, it's no different than back in the day when they were just Changing like waffles and stuff you know you just create the the the the means to do so. Right and enough people that follow you that do it.

Raylene:

Salt pretty rocks.

Steve:

This poor guy though, right? Yeah he's tried eight times just two tries

Raylene:

to tries left that was out forever. And this this one here that's actually our article he has the code, right is on his hard drive that he threw away and he's literally telling everybody where he threw it away.

Steve:

I would be soaking through the dump.

Raylene:

I'm actually Yeah, I think that's what I think this is actually one of those secret hidden treasure deals where you know, like, if you can find it,

Steve:

yeah, think of the things you would do for $280 million dollars.

Raylene:

I wouldn't even leave a blow job for that job.

Steve:

For 200 Yeah, I would everybody line up. No,

Raylene:

no, I would think like, if it was a guarantee, then yeah, but if I gotta like work for it, like now someone's gonna get there right before they're me and make me mad. I know. It all just seems like magic money to me. That's why it doesn't feel real. So

Bradford :

it's like super fake.

Steve:

What if everybody cashed out that's true? Like what if there was like the like the like the I forgot the term that day where the stock market crash for the Great Depression everybody pulled their money? What if that happened? Like that's what I'm getting

Raylene:

out. One person left is like I have all the cryptocurrency in the world and

Steve:

everyone's trading it around but like the values never truly been tested all at one time, or like on a large scale. So I'm curious where would like actually is tested to hold up as like an actual gold currency? Really?

Raylene:

Yeah. And does it have the same like $300 limit when you try to pull it out of the ATM? Or can you be like I'm just gonna take out like 1.2 mil right now.

Steve:

Your finger off?

Unknown:

Ouch.

Steve:

Well 10 tries it locked keeps your money forever. Imagine forgetting your ATM account. They're like Dude, one more try. We're keeping this shit.

Bradford :

So I want to know who keeps it who's making all the money?

Unknown:

That's cloud

Steve:

that's why it makes me feel like this is just this is just plain money. The cloud is the

Bradford :

person behind the cloud there's a person who is profiting

Unknown:

pourcel Bitcoin ATM I found a couple next to me.

Raylene:

It's the great Wizard of Oz.

Steve:

Yeah, I see it's at the gas station in my work I saw today. Yeah, what am I gonna do

Raylene:

well now Okay, so but how do you get the ATM card now cuz I mean it's not like there's a bank and a teller you can go and be like I need a car

Steve:

but that shows as a company Bitcoin is investing a lot of money to now shift into try I don't have direct deposit right? Right.

Raylene:

Well do you have like an account you lock it? Do you have an account? Like you can just log in because I don't it just seems I guess it just seems so crazy that I should probably just buy some Bitcoin now because every time I think something's crazy gets huge, you know, like peloton.

Bradford :

Well, this guy he this guy spent 7000 or he has sorry 7500 bitcoins, which are apparently now worth 280 million, but he obviously didn't pay 280 million for those 7500 Bitcoins. So, you know, clearly he's made his investment back if he can access

Raylene:

it now. Right? Did you guys ever watch Big Bang Theory because they had an episode on that one too, where he had he had put it on his Spider Man hard drive, like a little thumb drive. And then they and he was looking for it because Bitcoin finally was a thing that people were talking about it and he couldn't find it. And then like he was like, Well, I guess we'll never know. But then it showed like the trail of what really actually happened to it, which is it fell off his keychain landed on the floor. Stewart from the comic book store says, Oh, this is a nice, you know, blah, blah, blah, erased it and sold it for $1. And

Steve:

some guy found this guy's and erase it if I if I had a hard drive or a flash drive. Those were $280 million. Yeah, at least around my neck. Honestly, I'd have up somewhere else

Raylene:

I would. Base.

Steve:

That's crazy. Yeah, you throw that out. But

Raylene:

he's got so much money. He doesn't need to

Steve:

worry about it. The only time I feel bad for him, he said he would be laying in bed. And he'd think of a new strategy. And he'd run out in the middle of night you type it in and this is it. And it's like you had a trial or you got to trial. I feel horrible for

Unknown:

no rich to be that. That's what that's what

Steve:

I don't understand. I just can't even dad's Bitcoin. Clearly,

Raylene:

I can't even keep track of my own passwords. me know, I am so grateful for Chrome and apple. And like, anytime I create an account with my iPhone, it's like, do you want to use an an iPhone password? And you look at it and like, no, I would never, you know, like 72 characters long with it'll be secure. And I'm like, yeah, if I'm accessing it from my phone,

Steve:

I get frustrated when I try to log in. They're like, Oh, your last password. We don't feel safe enough. And then I change it. And I log in again. I try to log into my Facebook on my work computer. It's like, what's your password? I'm like, Yes, they're like, No, it's not. That's old. Let me try this. No, I

Unknown:

hate that.

Steve:

I can't even I've had to change it every time I log in. So you should just give me a button to click where it's like, I release all responsibility. My identity is stolen. That's on me. Just let me go in without a password man. It's like my house. I should leave the door.

Bradford :

Well, there's sort of a solution and we're not getting paid from that. By the way, if you'd like to sponsor us last pass, hit me up. Anyway, there is a company called LastPass, which is pretty amazing. You can download on all of your devices, it remembers all of your passwords, and it even makes super secure, like 15, you know, 1820 character passwords with like numbers and letters and symbols and all that and it stores it. And actually, when you go

Raylene:

have our passwords,

Unknown:

yeah, but they're safe. So

Raylene:

I like those air quotes. I mean, what is wrong with like, juicy plus 72? exclamation point? Why can't that just be at capital

Steve:

J juicy and what's your email?

Raylene:

That's obviously not my best. I thought really hard about that one this afternoon. Like what fake password guessing it was speaking about

Steve:

being allowed in places. There was a guy who ended up living in O'Hare Airport for three months, three months, I forgot what country lived in. But he was traveling abroad. He had to stop and check. I think.

Unknown:

He lives in California. He

Steve:

landed in Chicago O'Hare and he was like, the pandemic. I don't want to go to California. I can't fly. So he ended up stealing someone's credentials and ended up living in like the secure area of the airport for three months.

Raylene:

I'm just wondering what dumb ass doesn't want to go to California, but we'll stay in an airport where people are coming and going constantly, the more in

Steve:

three months. A man's wife must be a horrible human being right? That's my theory.

Bradford :

I feel bad for the dog. It's been having to go to the bathroom for three months. No. No, like he he was accepting meals from people like he legit had run out of money. Listen, airport food is not cheap. If you're gonna plan to live in an airport for three months, even though you don't have to pay rent. Oh, my God plan for the fact that like a whopper from McDonald's is gonna be like 14 bucks.

Raylene:

I'm just gonna say right off the top. I don't believe it. I don't believe that. That's what he was doing. He was in the secure areas and right, he? I think the story is bullshit. And I think I'm not flying through O'Hare for a while now.

Bradford :

Well think about it, though. Technically, technically, when you get off of an airplane, you're in the secure area. When you leave that airplane. You were in the same terminal where people are boarding that plane after you. So you're in you know, it's easy to get in there from one flight to another you're in there now

Steve:

where what other place in the world and society can you fall asleep on the ground fully clothed with your suitcase or your backpack or your jacket as a pillow? And people just walk by you? Everything's fine. You just missed your phone. Three people would shake you go sir, are you okay? Or

Unknown:

Tonya airport, you're

Steve:

like, that guy's had a long fucking day. I hope he gets a good rest and keep it moving. So I feel like that that's partially attributed a little bit to like, why is that guy sleeping on the chair over there and he was able to get away with it.

Raylene:

Right But he had some anxiety so he was going into the secret areas because also I don't think there's any showers in the public area issue. Yes.

Steve:

But you know what I feel like there was there's a reasonable solution for this like the airport kind of got free labor. Yeah, I didn't have to go home to his horrible wife areas. And you know, where they jack all your food that can go on the airplane and they just throw it in the trash in front of you to just give it to this guy? Yeah, he go hoard it over in his old place and then he can live forever.

Raylene:

Tom Hanks movie about a guy who lived in an airport

Steve:

terminal is actually really good movie.

Raylene:

Well, I mean, it's there Hank. So

Steve:

his inspiration is based on a true story too.

Raylene:

It's true. Maybe this guy went back in time

Steve:

but the the logic of this guy's is idiotic because although Yes, you are going to be on an airplane and close with like 50 people. There's a pandemic going on. You chose as an alternative instead of being on that airplane for like five hours to stay in a location for three months or everybody on every plane ever ever. Yes going.

Unknown:

There's a lot of people yeah, no hair.

Bradford :

It's a huge airport and not a united hub. It is it actually was the united and that was like can I see your ID

Unknown:

I go back to what Raylene said I'm never quite get there again. I was in a secured place with a fake badge. What should have been the most secure area ever?

Raylene:

And I don't want to be one of those people that just like automatically against certain things, but this name says I don't want you running around in an airport. Right?

Unknown:

I mean, no offense, but

Raylene:

I did not see the picture. I saw the name and I was like okay, no, yeah.

Bradford :

I mean, someone like that, you know, you're not in it like official clothing. So you're going into these doors. There's gotta be cameras watching people go into those doors. It can't be like Oh, look, there's a normal everyday Joe and like, jeans and a sweatshirt. Thanks

Raylene:

for taking away my wine key and my three ounces of water but this water motherfuckers been walking around here for three months. Secure. Job O'Hare. Know how he got the credentials. He Yeah, he just picked him up somewhere.

Unknown:

He what? I wonder if he made chips. He probably had a whole job.

Steve:

Yeah, I mean, that's what I was like, wow, I never knew all hair had a bathroom. And this is amazing. Right?

Raylene:

Yeah, see, and that's the problem. He begged for food instead of finding some sort of way. To make money he could have been a bathroom attendant. He could have paid like, Hey, I'll watch your bags for five bucks. You can go the bathroom. You don't have to bring your two pieces of luggage.

Steve:

Well, maybe he was running from his scorned wife because this was the woman he was dating. Hey, maybe this makes all the sense. This is who it is. This is it. Oh, there is a guy who cheated on his girlfriend. And she decided to get revenge by taking obscene amounts of glitter and dumping them. That's how much glitter dumping them on like everything in this dude's apartment to get revenge. Now, you know, when you have that one little speck of glitter on your cheek and you're like that? I'm not kidding. It's from the damn strip club. And it's like, like, why can't I get this off? That's one speck. Imagine that. In your carpet on your bed in your clothes. Like, you don't cheat. You're just a glitter boy down.

Raylene:

So maybe next time you'll think

Unknown:

she was playing that song in the background.

Steve:

She didn't use that Carrie Underwood. Yeah,

Bradford :

go. So you know it's not her apartment though. And it wasn't even his Well, it was her. She wouldn't have done that. No, but I mean, does this violate I mean she hasn't been arrested so clearly it doesn't but isn't that like destruction of someone's property condemned letter?

Steve:

Well, he would have to view it. Crime

Bradford :

I did you like to comment? On her tik tok videos someone had commented and they were like glitter is like particle plus.

Raylene:

Oh my god motherfucking granola crunchy biscuit.

Unknown:

That's me. I'm a tree hugging hippie. But you know he cheated. He gets what he gets so the environment didn't cheat on her theme the gardener was already made exactly exactly

Steve:

there we go should honor it sacrificing and and who's to

Raylene:

say that it was the micro plastic glitter there is edible glitter and there is biodegradable glitter why everybody gotta

Steve:

judge her so I we talked about this on the radio this morning. And I asked people like what the best revenge you've ever done. And like the girl didn't call but some dude called and said that she glued his PlayStation four controller to the top of the PlayStation. Oh wow. So it can still turn on but you obviously can't play it without being able to hold the controller and like I shuttered from the evil genius level of that so that's awesome. But I guess the guy in this story was like at first he was mad and now he kind of they just laughing about it because it's that that it's so evil genius. You have to appreciate it on the level of what it is.

Raylene:

I Morse thing I did I had a guy cheat on me he was a Navy guy and he had gotten like they have the things where they're not supposed to leave the base on the weekend or whatever Yeah, but he had got himself off base and or you're not supposed to you have to wear your uniform all weekend is what it is like you can go watch Yeah, so So anyway, he got off base and then he put his regular clothes on because he's like fuck the rules or whatever. But then I found out here that he was cheating on me when he got off base so I went and poured milk all over his clothing. And so then on Sunday night when he got dressed back in his uniform to go back to the base he smelled like rotten milk cuz

Steve:

cheese to bring the work

Raylene:

damn right. And that's and that's a no, not even crime. Just wash your clothes and you're cool, but everybody around you knows you did not wear those clothes all weekend.

Unknown:

Well that that is revenge. I guess

Steve:

it's like the see what like from the male's perspective women tell a story. No one was really like, yeah,

Unknown:

you gotta write

Steve:

that girl. like fuck yeah, get that asshole. Yeah, so interesting.

Raylene:

It was it was I mean, it was a dumb. I mean, I was like, 18. So I mean, it wasn't like I was gonna scratch his car. I mean, I mean, he probably I don't even remember his name. That's a little he meant to me. But I was like, I'm not gonna cheat on me and get some milk on your clothes.

Unknown:

That is horrible. I didn't do anything crazy like that.

Bradford :

No, I was just gonna say I actually have been cheated on twice. And I never sought revenge of any kind. I just kind of was like, well, there's a natural, you know, flow to the universe. And I believe in karma. And actually, karma did the trick. I won't mention the person or what happened, but let's just say amends have been made

Raylene:

naturally. Have you guys seen those glitter bombs that they put out for people who steal your packages? Yeah, that's amazing. Was that a spark spray? And

Steve:

then it's like a glitter nuke what this girl did,

Raylene:

right? Yeah, yeah, but she didn't include the spray in the cameras yet.

Steve:

courtesty Have you ever have you ever gotten any revenge? No, but I would lose my shit. I'm

Unknown:

not in debt. But I hate I hate glitter. I hate I hate any act like the little particle Amil feet in the mirror and I like drives me insane. can never get it off.

Bradford :

Oh, I know. I got a greeting card that had glitter on it. And just putting the card in the envelope. Got glitter on my bed and then I didn't realize and I woke up in the morning and I had glitter

Raylene:

an angel was like were you Ben Ben. Who invented glitter?

Steve:

We should go dump glitter.

Unknown:

You should do

Raylene:

some crafty person. I know. There's no glitter in my house.

Steve:

All right, well, we're gonna go clean up some glitter. We will be back after a break. We have a very special guest. She is a longtime professional astrologer. Her name is astrologer And we will be right back with it right after this.

Raylene:

Curtis, we're Where are you?

Unknown:

I thought you were gonna miss the podcast. I was grocery shopping and it was rough. I had to run all over town to get everything on my list and I got elbow dropped by a little old lady over a pack of toilet paper. I don't see what's so great about shopping. It's a

Raylene:

pain. That's because you're doing it wrong. I did all my shopping while we were on the last commercial break and most of it will be here by the time the show was over. See what

Unknown:

how did you manage that? Did you get yourself a personal shopper? Nope.

Raylene:

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Unknown:

Sweet. How can I get in on this?

Raylene:

Just click the link in the show notes that will let instacart know that we sent you and it'll help support our show. Not only that our listeners get free delivery on their first order over $35 so it's a win win for everyone

Unknown:

heading over there now instacart saving you time and money. Now that's undebatable

Keith:

you're listening to undebatable here's Raylene Curtis, Steve and Bradford.

Steve:

We are back to the stars and planets have aligned and we have a very special guest. It is an Nordhaus bike also known as astrologer and she is a longtime professional astrologer and an award winning astrology journalist. Early in her career, she worked in business for several years and in 1993 founded a nbqx communications consulting and communication firm over the years and has won more than a dozen writing art and communication awards, including an international award for astrology, writing, and in 2012 she published her astrology book follow the sun, which includes her original Zodiac watercolors please welcome to the show, astrologer and

Unknown:

Hello. So

Steve:

and what is astrology and what got you started in the career in astrology,

Unknown:

astrology originally it's it's actually astronomy. And before they had astronomy, astronomy was astrology, it's a study of the stars and the planets and the correlations of their movements with stuff that happens in nature on planet earth and with human beings. And it's a thing that's been around for 1000s and 1000s and 1000s of years. And essentially, it's a way to fit ourselves into harmony with all of nature, and to figure out ways about how time goes in cycles. So that we can be with the time when we want to do stuff and avoid trying like starting things at the wrong time it developed actually as a way to know when to plant the crops. And 1000s of years ago, if you didn't know when to do that, there would probably be a famine and you would be overthrown or probably removed from Planet Earth by and very unhappy subjects. So basically, royalty and nobility would use it and military people to make sure that they have the stars aligned with them when they had to do really important stuff.

Steve:

Is that where astrology found its foothold and its importance in our society.

Unknown:

Well, you know, it's interesting, its influence waves and waxes just like the moon does. But it found its importance, in part because people used it as a practical tool. I always talk about the fact that rather than a belief system, which it is not. It's a tool just like mathematics or other things that we use to analyze things. It's an applied science as well as an art. But yeah, when people saw that they could actually figure out how to fit themselves into timing and get things themselves to be much more successful. Yes, that's exactly a big part of why it became a big deal. A lot of the leaders and a matter of fact, in our country have used it and a lot of the big fortunes that were built by industrialists in the 19th century, JP Morgan, for example. They were working with astrologers. Thank you for joining us. This is probably one of my favorite subjects. I kid you not the best sign. Yeah, could you let everyone know that Pisces is the best or the best.

Raylene:

She's not here to lie to people.

Steve:

That's why he had no problem repeating it.

Unknown:

Yeah, I had absolutely no problem repeating that loud enough for everyone to hear or be edited out, you know? Because our questioner here is one. Oh,

Bradford :

she's got you down Curtis.

Unknown:

Actually, would you like a serious answer to that

Steve:

the rest of us would

Unknown:

die when I die. I don't think I have a choice. Pisces let me assure you you're super special because you're the sign that we're just passing out of in terms of the age we had about 21 2200 years of the Pisces age. We're moving in squarely into the Aquarius and so kudos to all the fish out there who Help Desk Do you know is humanity 2200 years of stuff, but I will say is there one perfect sight? No, there's 12 wonderful signs. Ooh, everyone's special. Yes, actually they are. We all have a job to do actually, based on our time.

Raylene:

What do you think about this whole? There's a 13th sign and all of the birthdays moving.

Unknown:

Oh, that comes up periodically. You may now remove them from your database, just like dirt.

Raylene:

Yeah, yes. So my actual question is, I hear a lot. Every time somebody is having like a bad day, they will say, oh, Mercury must be in retrograde. And to me, that's just like saying, Oh, this day sucks because somebody must have put mayonnaise on my sandwich. So what in the world is mercury and retrograde? And why is it so bad?

Unknown:

Oh, okay. Well, a few things here, Mercury. It's the smallest one in our solar system. It's the closest to the sun and three about three times a year, it looks like Mercury's going backwards in the sky in relation to where we are standing on planet Earth. It's not going backwards, but it looks like it is and for 1000s of years, astrologers have correlated these movements with stuff that's pretty predictable that happens on planet Earth. When mercury goes retrograde communication seems to suffer. So just things like commerce, contracts, trade, all those sorts of things. Now in our modern age, because Mercury is also associated with anything with moving parts, cars might have problems, phones, computers, so it has a huge impact. I think Raylene Part of the reason you hear about it so much is it's on the map now in our modern age, because it affects so much of our modern age technology, you know that we're all talking today is a miracle of technology, but we're doing it when Mercury is not retrograde. Anyway, Mercury is not retrograde right now. And when it does, the type of sign that it's in, is it in a water sign and earth sign or an air sign tells us a little bit about what we're going to experience? It's not always retrograde. But when it does it, it's tremendously inconvenient if you're not prepared for it. And I think that's part of why we hear people say, Mercury must be retrograde blame stuff on it happens for three weeks at a time and I'll give you some data for the next one that's coming. We're going to get a Mercury Retrograde really soon. It's January 30. until February 21 heads up to all of our listeners we're talking today in January of 2021. It's gonna be an Aquarius, that's why it's a big deal. So that's one we're batten down the hatches start backing up everything crazy in your world.

Raylene:

So let's talk about just Aquarius people or everybody we got a backup or shit

Unknown:

all people back it up and try to do it a couple weeks ahead of time get your ducks in a row. And actually Oh, you did ask is it always horrible? Oh, no, you will come once you learn about Mercury Retrograde to look forward to it. It's like, okay, whew, I can slow down a little bit. Because we have to see the data that's coming in, it's going to come in weird ways. It's not going to come directly like you might send an email and it won't go and then it'll go like a couple weeks later. And but it's actually the right time even though it feels like the wrong time. Or secrets come out and you love secret Scorpio about your secret data.

Steve:

Now your career makes so much sense.

Raylene:

I just can't think of anything I've ever kept secret. I mean, I'm pretty wide open. I don't know I have a lot of secrets,

Unknown:

or people from your past might come in so those might appear.

Raylene:

Okay, that's for the warning.

Bradford :

And besides an amazing astrologer, you also are an artist and a great cook. So Ann made some I believe it was cranberry nut breads and shares in Bradford Well, she lives in Chicago, but I could smell them here in Connecticut. It was just fabulous. And I'm like

Steve:

like she sent you food and you're telling us about it while she's on and we're not eating the food. No, she didn't

Bradford :

send it. But she said, Well, she didn't send it that she posted a picture on Facebook and I was drooling over it. It looked incredible. So she's an amazing cook

Steve:

as well. So I just wanted what was the recipe?

Unknown:

It was cranberry bread.

Steve:

I've never even heard of cranberry bread.

Bradford :

What what planet Do you live on?

Steve:

I live in earth 35 years and knows I'm an Aquarius?

Unknown:

Yeah, your head is in the cloud sometimes, right? Yes, yes. This is a good thing. You are the linchpin of what needs to move as far back thank you Bradford for being interested in my baking. I actually do a lot of baking I'm my other cat is shopping and I actually had professional chef coats made for myself with custom logo. Last year, I gave myself my own white coat ceremony. Oh my god. I love it. That is awesome.

Steve:

Well, and we actually have some guests that we are going to bring in live and hoping that you can give them answers to their questions and readings, whatever it is, but you know, we might as well bring them in and have them join the undebatable podcast. Hi, Anne.

Unknown:

I Gina, how are you? Great. How are you? I'm fabulous. I want to know what your zodiac sign is. I am a Pisces, Pisces bless your heart. You and Curtis Curtis, give her a big hand. Do fish which one of you is swimming up in which swimming down? Who knows? You're probably swimming up.

Bradford :

Definitely going downstream.

Unknown:

with Tina, what's your question today? Or what area of your life? Are you working on stuff that you might want a little guidance? Well, at this stage of my life, I'm pretty I'm old enough not to have to have a career. But there's something in me that still wants one. Yeah, and I should preface this by saying that I am an artist, specifically a portrait artist. And I've done some work recently, and I've got a couple of commissions. It takes a lot of time and energy to do that. And I'm wondering if this is a good time for me to kind of go for it with that. Um, I personally think first of all, regardless of your age, we all need interesting and creative things to do. So yay for you in and oh my goodness, if you're a Pisces, it's like your drip this beautiful sensitivity and creativity anyway, so I'm really glad that you're sharing that out in the world. Have you felt any kind of a shift since mid to late December? Oh, yes. Um, I have just been drawing and painting like one portrait after I'm a portrait Dyer site just almost every week, there's a new one that shows up on my easel. It's quite extraordinary. Yeah. One of the things that this information suggests is with really strong Aquarius energy is that working behind the scenes by yourself and really developing a body of work would be a very smart thing to be doing. Because you're going to have such an emphasis in Aquarius, which is a symbolically according to your son. It's your 12th house, which is the place where we do things are under wraps. It's also a place where you might confer with others who might be able to help you. All that being said, Do you have any friends or other people out there who can can help you because your friends, your house of connections and acquaintances is also still activated with Pluto in there, the old soul connections? Are you doing stuff like meditating? So that's another place where you need to start tapping into your guidance, both for your art as well as making some connections to bring it out? Well, as far as meditation goes, I don't meditate, per se. But when I'm working as sort of an active meditation on my part, I just go there. And I just follow whatever shows up. Does that make any sense? Absolutely. I want to suggest a couple of dates to you because you are a Pisces, you're coming into the waning time of your year. And so I would say in terms of bringing yourself out like outing yourself and your work and that sort of thing. Behind the scenes, but the sun is going to go into Pisces this year, on February 18. I'm not sure what timezone you're located in, but in the eastern time zone that is 5:45am, just to give you that. So February 18, you might want to earmark that date, that's the date that you're going to start feeling energies come up where you start to come out in the world a little bit more. And I can definitely say that you have got eclipses coming, and that affect your career house. And there's one that you ought to really pay attention to. There's one in Sagittarius, which is the top of your chart. It's going to be a total solar eclipse on December 4. That is another date for you to earmark. You could see some real change something new coming in for how what your status is in the world, and what kind of work you're going to be doing in your career. All right, thank

Steve:

you.

Unknown:

Excellent.

Steve:

Thank you, fellow Pisces. Tina, apparently you and Curtis both believe that you guys have the greatest sign of all time. We're gonna move on to someone who potentially disagrees with that we are going to bring in Dan Spellman. We have Mary Ellen, who is Dan's wife.

Raylene:

Hey, Dan. Hi, Ann.

Unknown:

Well, hello, you're Mary Ellen. It's nice. Yes, yeah. Hi. Hi, Ann. And Mary Ellen and I just started a podcast. Will this be a successful venture for us? Dan? Give me a cell who is a Sagittarius. Hey, Dan. Damn Sagittarius, Mary Ellen, whatever you say both says yeah. Oh, cool. Are you both December's? Are you November's? I'm December 5 keys December 6. Oh, nice. That's very cool. Shit. So Yeah, we can see he's turning brown.

Raylene:

Danny needs some aloe for that burn though.

Unknown:

I didn't mean it that way. I was barely being Loki bantering, but I will just continue that. So y'all are starting a podcast? Yes. So your question is, is it a good idea? Yeah. Is it a good idea? Will it be successful? Will people follow it? Well, good lord, you couldn't have more things telling you do this. You're both sagittarians. And so your third house of communication. And that's everything, from blogs, to podcasts, to writing articles to, you know, having a conversation with a neighbor, whatever, it is lit up like a Christmas tree. All of the Aquarius energy is in there. Right now, the sun just before we started recording, this podcast moved into Aquarius, and it joined Jupiter, and Saturn, which came in in December, they're gonna stay for a long time. But I want to tell you a day that you really ought to be thinking about would be February, probably February 9, you're going to look and see that the moon is going to move into this third house, you might feel the huge vibrational energies going on because we're going to have six planets in that house. So get cracking on stuff. Now Mercury's going to be retrograde. So what I would recommend is if there's a way you can go back to some old stuff you've written, old people, or former anything or people you've worked with in the past, get your friends involved, go back to people you already know. And do that until the mercury retrograde says and then just come out like gangbusters. Let me give you the dates really quick. The new moon in Aquarius is going to come on February 11. That's a good time for you to start something, whatever the something is. Now remember, it's got to be something that's focused on the past. So past ideas, go back to old friends, that kind of thing. But my goodness, if you don't start it, I'd be shocked. Or I'd be saying, hey, you're not using what you're being given by the cosmic. So totally cool. You guys go for him. All right. My question is, am I ever going to get my shit together? Can you be more specific regarding the category in which that is appearing? Like procrastination? It's the bane of my existence. Is that procrastination because of being scattered? No. Where does the source of the procrastination, I think it's a deserving thing. Meaning you don't deserve it. Like deep down in myself? Yeah. Well cut that out. Yeah. plus, plus, are you meditating? Yes, every day, good. Well do something different with it. Have you asked for help? And are you doing what they're telling you to do? I'll do it. Good. Like you actually have to do it. If you don't do it, they won't give you more. But I will tell you about worry. I don't know if you're online, I was talking to the prior caller, there is an eclipse coming in your you guys sign in Sagittarius. And that's going to be really important for you to pay attention to, because that's a new lease on life. So you have a chance to like sort of remake this kind of stuff. If you work on it this year. That's December 4. It's a total solar eclipse. So actually, also you use visualization. You're super smart. I can tell you guys so like use all these tools that you have and all these people coming into your life. Ask for help if you need it, and have them hold you accountable? Yeah. All right. Well, we'll say one more thing. Yeah. And your parent is very fancy. It is indeed.

Raylene:

A podcast though.

Steve:

It came from the stars.

Unknown:

Amazing. I have these three of them custom made depending on you know the vibrations I need. I have different vibrations.

Raylene:

We will wait. Sorry.

Steve:

Thank you to Mary Ellen and Dan Spellman. I'm jumping in now because somehow through the alignment of planets or stars or whatever, our next guest is Bradford husband. And rarely

Raylene:

I cannot wait

Steve:

to have an opportunity to ever talk to him. And I already screamed off Mike that we need to turn this around on breadfruit. So that is that is the goal. Would you like to introduce your husband, Brett?

Unknown:

Hey, Larry. Oh,

Steve:

you're the man we love that we've never met.

Unknown:

You all am Angel. My sign is Capricorn. Well, I'm really glad you made it in 2021 bang. It's been really hard and heavy for the Capricorns for a while. So what can I help you with today My darling. So um, My question would have to do with the professional aspect of my life. Right now I'm going through a lot of transitions and a lot of changes. And I just wanted to have like some insight on what's a half. When you say transitions and changes, what does that mean? So for example, I'm finishing school, and I'm working on the permit. And now it's time to change the permit and eventually ended to get certification, my Masters about to be finishing. So it's around all of those. So in part, it's because you need a degree or some kind of certification to be able to do what you want to do. And what field are you in? education, education. Cool. So you want to teach her something? I'm actually teaching what I'm teaching under a permit. Okay, got it all to expire. And right after it expires, I have like, like, a two three month period in which I'm supposed to be getting my masters and certification. Yeah. Are you working? Are you working in the teaching right now? Because it shows you working really hard right now? Are you working a lot? Yes, yeah, there's gonna continue for a while. And I was talking earlier to one of the other callers your second house of earned income where you go to work and you make money. It's really direct, you know, the direct, you know, a value that you hit, or what you do is what is really lit up with tons of Aquarian energy and it's also one of these things where anything could happen that's really interesting, sudden, you know, sorts of energy. I want to give you the date for the new moon in that area, though Angel. There's a new moon in Aquarius, which is what your second house is, biologically in relation to your son, February 11. There might be somebody from your past who might come in and help you with some of this stuff. So you might want to put some intentions out in terms of attracting and somebody who might if you if you need help, or if you're looking for timing. Now, in terms of you know, certification and mastery and all those kinds of things, I would recommend also that you pay attention to this year's Mercury Retrograde and in particular, the one that's coming up that's going to be in Aquarius, that is January 30 to February 21. Same thing when Mercury's retrograde you need to go back and cross every T and dot every eye and be super careful with all of this stuff. And the reason it's particularly important for you you asked about career, your sixth house of job is Gemini, and that is reflected every time we get a Mercury Retrograde so you need to be super, you need to be absolutely scrupulous about this sort of thing. And you're going to get a Mercury retrograde in that sixth house by the way, coming in Gemini, let me give you the dates for that may 29 to June 22. So keep an eye on that as well. You might take those date downs take it very seriously. Because again, it's going back to the past it's perfecting some things for yourself and and and and really, you know, nose to the grindstone. But I will also say some of the heaviest darkest energies past you had three big planets in their first house of Capricorn for you for a long time and I hope you felt a lift at the end of December. And you've earned this time like like these are finally going to lighten up part of what you need to do is remove your personal rain cloud Capricorn and trust that light and bright can come for you and find a way to allow the joyful sense of humor the fabulousness that you are to come out. Oh my God, thank you on No.

Steve:

I'm sorry to interrupt. But I have a question not for me but for Angel for Brad. So we've just learned that angel is he is a Capricorn he is also Bradford's husband. And now I know and the you already know Bradford sign so now based off your expertise, who is a more difficult person in the relationship

Unknown:

angels raising Oh Steve you little scam.

Steve:

I do radio This is my job.

Unknown:

I know me too. We're making great radio Well, some really fun stuff brand for your second house of marriage is the one that's lit up for you with everything going on with Aquarius, when you are going to be experiencing particularly in these next couple of months is watching and having experiences as you watch your partner change and have his experiences you will grow by observing this experiencing You are a witness now in other words, it's it needs to not be about you Bradford for a while and I know you're a Leo and that's difficult but the sun when it is in Aquarius is exactly opposite. You need to let the other people shine and be supportive. But mostly give yourself a rest because when the sun is exactly opposite our sun signs It's kind of tiring, really draining. So just take care of your lion light for a while, but you guys are well matched because you're both really strong signs. These are very leadership signs both Leo and Capricorn so you like you can be this power couple, but sometimes better no boost forward. back. It's not a permanent, it's just it's like the dance of life. Who's the top who's the boss?

Bradford :

That was like, it was so funny cuz when you were like you need a step back a little not step back, but like, you know, like,

Steve:

let up spending money on pocket

Unknown:

like, let him

Raylene:

let him have a look of horror on his face.

Bradford :

No, no, no, but Anna and her face was like, Yeah, like, that's what I've been telling him.

Unknown:

Very good depiction of how our dynamic is because we both have strong personalities, but at the same time, we kind of make it work somehow. And interestingly, when you have those two signs, they're located not exactly opposite, it's off by one side. It's what I call the awkward angle, it means you have to constantly be alert and adjust to each other. But it is a great setup for both of you to really grow and come into the best part of yourself because there's always the rubbing each other You always have to be really honest, in terms of understanding each other. That is awesome. Thank you. Yeah, awesome.

Steve:

Well, and thank you. We all know way more about our so it's creepy that you know, like I keep trying to trick you and you know me and you keep calling me out. So that is I'm talking to my mother without her knowing all my dirty secrets.

Unknown:

I'm delighted to assistant anyway, I made new service. And I'm glad you find yourself today

Steve:

we're with astrologer and and how can people check out everything, all the great things do your website and your book as well.

Unknown:

I am astrologer and it's an with an E on the end, I am a four letter word, Astrologer and.com go there. tons of stuff. First of all, check your horoscopes, you'll find out the top of the of the menu on every page. If you're on a mobile and you don't see it, just scroll down, you will find it on the homepage. And my book, you can also find that on the homepage. If you click in the first box down there where it says personal astrology. Go through the eight little things in there and it will take you to the book. There's a nice little video about the book. And I can show you the book. I don't know if any of this video will go anywhere. But here's follow the sun

Steve:

for those of people who can't see is the greatest book cover that has ever been created in the history of all time.

Unknown:

It's very bright. And you are correct, Steve, because it's one of my paintings. See,

Steve:

look at that. Well, thank you and for joining the podcast, we definitely need to line up like 20 minutes we're gonna have a bunch of questions about Bradford. We will be ending the episode but we will be also doing an additional little thing with an afterwards so make sure you come and find that Curtis is underwater somewhere. Probably

Raylene:

on his way to New Jersey. Yes.

Steve:

We'll be back next week with the undebatable podcast.

Keith:

You've been listening to undebatable finally a show proving that people can disagree and still have fun, like it ought to be. We hope you had fun too. And we'll be back soon. Until then join in the conversation with us on our website at www dot undebatable dot show or connect with us on social media, Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube. We'll see you next time. Until then this is undebatable signing off.

Anne Nordhaus-Bike

Guest

Anne Nordhaus-Bike is Astrologer Anne, a longtime professional astrologer and award-winning astrology journalist. Early in her career, she worked in business for several years and in 1993 founded ANB Communications, a consulting and communication firm. Over the years, Anne has won more than a dozen writing, art, and communications awards, including an international award for astrological writing. Also an artist, she began exhibiting her work in 1998. In 2012 she published her astrology book, Follow The Sun, which includes her original zodiac watercolors. Since 2013, she has appeared as "Astrologer Anne" on WGN Radio and other radio and podcast stations. She earned a degree in art history from the University of Chicago and has served in various capacities at the Gazette Chicago newspaper since its founding in 1983, joining its board of directors in 2004.