Nov. 10, 2020

Dreams and Nightmares: Election Results 2020

Dreams and Nightmares: Election Results 2020

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On this edition of a Undebatable. We talk about the results of the election, big government or small government, Prince Harry is denied royal privilege, people getting paid big bucks to just surf the internet and cars across the country are being stolen. We are also joined by the one and only Dana Dowdell of Boss Consulting and a Professor at Eastern Connecticut State University to discuss the impact Covid-19 has on working families and employers. Join in on the fun! This is Undebatable.

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Keith:

trivia time. What happens when you put for highly opinionated friends? For microphones and breaking news and controversial topics in a blender? You get one hell of a podcast. This is undebatable A hysterical and thought provoking podcast that sees for friends from different backgrounds debate hot button issues that affect our modern world hot button issues. For quick witted hosts, if it's political news, pop culture news or weird news. We're talking about it. This is undebatable and here are your hosts Raylene? Curtis, Steve and Bradford.

Curtis:

Hey, hey, hey, hey, how's everyone doing today?

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

Fabulous.

Raylene:

Alive

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

alive?

Unknown:

any better I couldn't take it. Yeah.

Curtis:

So in case you guys have been tuned in have become fans of ours and know our voices by now. We have a new guest with us tonight that is going to be filling in for the amazing Steve. Could you do me a favor Bradford and introduce our guests?

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

Absolutely with honor this sitting across from me is my brother Brandon Hyde.

Curtis:

Wait, we're going to start that again. You need a proper introduction. This sitting across from me.

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

This gentleman sitting across from me. Thank you. This non Italian Stallion

Curtis:

Brandon Hyde. Welcome, brother. Welcome to the undebatable podcast. How are you?

Unknown:

I am awesome. How

Curtis:

are you? Not too bad at all. For the listeners? Give us a little bit about yourself. Tell us a little a little little spiel on 30 seconds. 30 seconds.

Unknown:

How do I sum it up in 30 seconds. I am a 13th generation New England boy I happen to be Bradford's brother. The only reason I was invited on this podcast. And I consider myself civically active. A proud father and husband two awesome kids and,

Curtis:

and business owner locally. Nice. Well, welcome. And thank you for filling in for Steve. And we are excited for today's show. So what do we have for today, let's go over some of the topics that we're going to talk about. Let's see. So today, carjacking and vehicle thefts. Police around the country are asking Vin vehicle owners to lock up their car and be on high alert. And one of your favorite engineer browsers or perhaps not opera is offering $9,000 for you to browse the internet. Prince Harry was rejected by the Queen herself. And last but certainly not least, which will be our first shot because big government versus small government. And to get started, just want to hear how was everyone's thoughts on the election. The election has just passed. And I would you know, wouldn't be myself if I didn't ask everyone's thought on the election.

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

Biden is our president elect regardless of what the republican party would like to say about it? That's first and foremost, the most important thing to make note of sorry,

Curtis:

Raylene. You know, I'm curious to hear your thoughts.

Raylene:

I say that we have about 90 days to six months before Kamala Harris is the president.

Curtis:

I'm scared to ask why.

Raylene:

Yeah. Well, they're either gonna declare him incompetent, because he clearly is or somebody is gonna bump him off, and he's gonna have a quote unquote, heart attack.

Keith:

Got it? God,

Raylene:

that's something that the republican the Democrat Party is famous for is just people get randomly carjacked and they die?

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

I think it's, I think it's pretty hard to do that to a sitting president. I don't. I mean, listen, that happened years ago, to few unfortunate souls. But I think that we've come a long way. So hopefully, that doesn't happen. I think Biden's gonna make a great

Raylene:

president. It's not that hard. If it's an inside job.

Unknown:

Right. We've come a long way. But one thing we need to work on is, is our elections, I think we we need to definitely recognize some federal laws that are out there. I think we need to agree we need to become unified as a country. But when different states are following different rules, it kind of creates a little bit of chaos. So I think one thing that needs to be looked into is we all as Americans want to feel comfortable in the election process. And I think that we deserve that. Right. So right now I've heard from other people say that, a for the rest of the world, we need to just unify and get behind the president elect. And to that I say, whenever there's the potential for fraud, we need to we need to look into it. And I think we have an awesome judicial system. I think at the end of the day, as rough as it is for the country to go through this time period. I hope that if there is any discrepancies that they're brought about and some reform comes about and election so we can feel even more more comfortable as I think that's the thing. That's the one thing

Curtis:

that I would agree with is that we do need some reform. I don't agree that we have an awesome judicial system. There's just absolutely no way I could cosign that. But I think there's a lot of alarming things that we have found with this election. And all Americans deserve the right to be able to vote and be able to have access to vote, and to be able to feel like their vote is not only warranted, but it's protected, that they can, you know, get out there and be able to vote. But To that end, I also think that the current president number 45, I only refer to him as number 45. He has to at least have some sort of compassion for millions and millions and millions of Americans who have spoken spoken up very clearly, outside of any notion that there perhaps was voter fraud. Yes, the judicial system should probably deal with that. 100%. So, but at the same token, how many people do you think actually, that were dead or deceased caston vhost. but not enough to take away from Biden,

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

not enough that he won by like, crazy, high numbers. I mean, he had,

Raylene:

he had just got, how many of them were mailing votes from apartment buildings where people had moved or people weren't going to vote, but their neighbors just took it upon themselves to ship it in. I'm just disgusted with the whole thing. Because back to one a years ago, when we had Florida and the hanging chads is bullshit that has been 20 years, and we haven't come up with a better system. It's absolute bullshit. All right, but I think this pulls us into the very next

Curtis:

was literally gonna say that bad government versus small government,

Raylene:

it's six of one half dozen, the other we can't say we want a completely unified election where one person gets one vote. And on the other hand, say we don't want the government to maybe have our DNA or forces to have an ID or, you know, it's like one or the other, there's going to be so many people that are like, Well, I'm not going to do that, because I don't want the government meant to be able to track me. And it's like, if you have social security card, they're fucking tracking you dumb ass. But on the other hand, why don't we have something like that already? Why don't we have a fingerprint or eyeball scanner or not a chip? Not? I'm not going there.

Curtis:

Well, it just goes to show you how divided we are. It's like we have the President of the United States. But at the end of the day, we all know that the states do operate independently of the President, they have their own laws that govern themselves. I mean, Cali should be its own country, Florida, I believe we've got rid of already or in our minds at least.

Keith:

Oh, I'm sorry.

Raylene:

broken into three states for sure.

Curtis:

Correct. I mean, just the way it's I mean, you have the Electoral College, you have all those different things that are based on a system that is dated, we're in 2020. By now, I mean, Pluto's barely a planet, and they're finding life on galaxies that didn't exist, like we just discovered, there might be water on the moon, it's time to fix some things, it's time to realize, no, we can't count. I mean, we've learned that so big government versus small government, Bradford, or you're a big government guy, or small government guy, where do you lie?

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

Well, if you were to ask my brother here, he would say that I'm a big government guy. And that's for the simple fact that I'm labeled as liberal, or that I'm Democrat, but that, you know, I'm actually fiscally conservative, I don't think that we should be spending lots of money and don't act surprised, because I've said this to you a million times in our debates, I think that the government should not be spending so much money so that our country's not getting more and more and more into debt and owing China who is basically at one point going to own us if we keep doing that. Now, on the other hand, um, you know, when our country was formed, we had different mindsets. And the people that called this place home, they were a lot more responsible, they, it was just a different time. And so in terms of policy, I think is where government has to have a bigger hand. For example, we can't rely on your average everyday person to take care of the earth, which is why we have an EPA, Environmental Protection Agency. And you know, all of these laws that are put in place by EPA are designed to keep you in a healthy and safe that way, we have a nice, clean environment and world to pass on to our young kids. And we unfortunately, can't count on your average everyday American to to keep the world in a condition that we would feel comfortable giving to our future generations. That's

Curtis:

how we got Trump.

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

Yeah, well, yeah. So for policy reasons. I'm big government fiscally speaking, I'm small government, but how about you Really?

Raylene:

owe me I was pretty solid in my I don't think the government should be in our bedrooms. I don't think the government should control. I mean, I think they should control something like the election. Like, who was who I mean, we do the damn census for crying out loud. Why can't we, at that point, have some sort of a marker and say, Okay, this is who you are, and when you go to vote, this is what you need to bring to vote. If we're counting everybody already, but I Don't want to taking my money and redistributing it to people who don't give a shit about anything like, you know, working. And like, most importantly, I don't want them in our bedrooms.

Unknown:

Yeah, I echo that. I echo that opinion strongly. I do believe it was a long time ago. But I do believe there's a lot of traditionalist that still believe in what our founding fathers, what their principles were. And Thomas Jefferson stated at best that when you give enough power to a government to provide everything you need, they're also strong enough to take everything away that you have. And time and time again, time and time again in history, when socialist policies have overtaken a capitalist free market democracy. It just doesn't end well. So

Curtis:

I agree with that. I agree. We need to adopt some of the thought leadership that Thomas Jefferson and many other Republicans who champion these type of things with small government had, but at the end of the day, we can't fully 100% backed what our founding fathers did, because before then they didn't think people like myself, who happens to be a black Native American would be able to, you know, live enjoy life by home, work. So to go back on founding fathers, it just always makes me cringe every time I hear Founding Fathers like who are whose fathers were there. They weren't my father's not my Papi.

Unknown:

They, yeah, well, they they were actually our fathers. But but we have to apply what they said to modern day for sure. Right. Let me let me go more recent, Ronald Reagan, who happens to be somebody I highly idolized. When I was a young man, I remember looking in front of the TV and saying, Oh, that's what a president should be like. And I think he was he exemplified what I speak about in terms of small government, in terms of people being responsible and not outspending as a country, what we're pulling in, right. But he also reached across aisles. That's what I loved about Ron Reagan. He did truly unify the country didn't talk about it, he actually did it. But he did it in a fiscally responsible manner over his terms of eight years, cutting spending. I mean, at that time, when he came in, taxes were out of control. And he basically said we cannot continue to tax people to live conveniently and put our our future generations at risk. I feel like you can recite the whole preamble and the whole constitution right now just

Curtis:

away. Just spit that out right there. I just have to say that. But I will say to your defense, I believe in balance, I believe whether you're Republican, Democrat, gay by independent, whoever you are, or number 45, aka Trump, you do need to reach across the aisles and notify everyone. I will give them President Trump just for you, sir. Number 45. And 62% of Americans believe that government controls too much of our lives, according to a 2012 Pew Research poll, which brings us to our next topic, big government and how about the big monarchy in Great Britain? So let's talk about Prince Harry and I absolutely love the royal family. What can I just say that? I just don't love that they rejected Prince and what is it Megan?

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

Yeah, Megan Markel, and Prince Harry, you know, they stepped away from their duties. And it's like ever since then they're just like the outcast. How do you go from me? That's your blood. That's your family. They might not want to do quote, the job that you want them to do. But that would be like my dad, disowning me, because I don't want to be a landscaper, which my brother and my dad do.

Unknown:

I thought we weren't talking about that. Oh, yes.

Curtis:

He's like, I thought we did this. Right.

Raylene:

But like you, yeah, I'm with you.

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

You know, like, it's, maybe it's more than it's more than a job. Yes.

Curtis:

It shouldn't be. That's the problem. And I think that's the difference of millennials. And you know, all of us young people these days is we're very different than old school, government or founding fathers. Like the principles today are different. I mean, they didn't have Tick Tock. You imagine, if our founding fathers were reciting the preamble on Tick tock, like, just imagine what kind of life we'd live in the world.

Raylene:

No waste mug shot.

Curtis:

And for God's sake, he he married a commoner in their eyes. I mean, to us, I mean, she's American, she's beautiful. And she's taken the world by storm in terms of, you know, Vogue magazine and all those other different things, but to the real family. Like that's a call. Like, you can't just get outside and think you're still going to take that money. Take taxpayer dollars. Take that royal highness, you're not gonna get all that? No.

Raylene:

Yeah, but in this case, he just wanted to lay a wreath down right now for his mom and I can't remember the other person and I feel like that's a family thing. Not a monarchy thing. And that was bullshit that they cut him out of that. And that's petty that was petty. Did the request even make it to them?

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

It did. The Queen said no, right. No, it was technically it

Curtis:

wasn't the queen and I think that's the problem right? By the time the Queen gets this, this this this information, I think it'll be too far gone and too sour. I feel like they're going to return the petty favor because I would

Unknown:

if I was assigned administrator to

Raylene:

me, like no more pictures here. Great. Great. Son Bob I've pictures of Archie

Curtis:

right if you really wanted this your grandmother

Raylene:

rag magazines like everybody else bitch

Curtis:

just imagine when she gets that little note that comes onto her desk. It comes on like a silver platter and she's like hold the hell did this.

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

Yeah, well

Raylene:

roll Raylene

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

you would like this because you you'd like hallmark movies but I do Megan Merkel was in like one or two hallmark movies Can you and you know like the Hallmark Christmas stories there's always like a Christmas sort of like a prince right like a Royal Prince and clean Can you imagine if they bring like Megan Merkel back into and like a movie and they actually get like Prince Harry to

Raylene:

lock in a slum on a Christmas map. So

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

that would be cool. That'd be like the real it'd be like real housewives but it'd be like the real Royals of well, first of all,

Curtis:

she's talking to join the real housewives

Raylene:

that would be awesome. But

Curtis:

I always wonder like when do you think the monarchy that style of government will end because it's really just a courtesy at this point. She doesn't she you know, she's the head of state. But I see a lot more countries taking back their independence and to the point where there might not be so much have a need for them and they're very costly family.

Raylene:

Right? Yeah, they come in them and the fact that Megan and Harry are making their own money, it would be great if they just wind up being like, Pasha, we don't care. We don't need you. But you could still put a wreath on my mom's grave.

Curtis:

Seriously, like I'll read out of all things. That right, but again, it didn't say the administrators of the palace, but I just feel like somebody knew somebody was being petty like he said, Raylene, and I'd return the favor. I really would just chuck a reef right out the door and say, You will never see your granddaughter again.

Unknown:

Harsh Did you request a DNA test as well?

Curtis:

I think so actually.

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

What was that for though? That

Unknown:

might be Parise?

Curtis:

Right, right. Right, right.

Raylene:

Well, there's a DNA test.

Curtis:

Well, then again, he is trying to make money and ancestry.com is hiring him as an ambassador.

Raylene:

Wait, but who? Who asked for a DNA test?

Unknown:

I believe he did. There was a member years ago. remember years ago, Princess Diana and the potential scandal there and

Raylene:

right. Oh, for fuck sake. He looks just like him. Right. Weird. Big Ears. Big Nose. Weird. Teeth read the same. demented line of succession. Yes.

Curtis:

It's the tabloids? I mean, no need.

Raylene:

You don't need proof that Harry belongs to Charles.

Curtis:

at all, the real proof is there trying to find out was his mom cheating or whatever we all know that was that was for sure. I cheat if I was.

Raylene:

So was he

Curtis:

right? Right. But no, there's a difference there when the woman cheats versus when the man cheats?

Raylene:

Yeah, well, you know the downs. The worst part is the woman that he was cheating with what significantly less attractive than his wife.

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

That's a problem. Princess Diana was

Curtis:

born here comes my favorite line. And then there's that. And then there's that. Switching gears a little bit here, railing you love Norwegian. But this is not the cruise line. Instead, they are makers of the internet browser opera, and they are offering $9,000 for you or someone like you to browse the internet. And I just said someone like you because I know you have an interesting story of an unusual activity that you search for.

Raylene:

You're gonna have to remind me of what I look for. Because I look up a lot of unusual stuff.

Curtis:

I was trying to think of what are some unusual things I looked up and I couldn't really come up with anything.

Raylene:

Well, for me, I look up things like how long does it take the average guy to orgasm? What's an average penis size? Like when I'm doing

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

that I want to have facts. And that is exactly super careful. And that is exactly what he's alluding to?

Curtis:

Do you realize they're paying $9,000 for someone just like you,

Raylene:

I would absolutely search everything. And it's good till November 13. So it's not hard to find this article if you're interested. And

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

let's be clear, it is $9,000 a day for two weeks. That's a chunk of money, right? There is total is $9 per day,

Unknown:

really no total. Either way, I

Raylene:

mean, I'm not turning

Curtis:

$9,000 to sit in front of it sounds like a webcam experience, first of all, because it's like what do you think people are actually going to be looking up? What would you What would you look up? What do you do this?

Unknown:

Well, that's the problem. In my business. I look up a lot of things that have to do with our industry. And the internet doesn't recognize a lot of the names of those tools. So I could end up on the same site that wrote really names up.

Curtis:

What are some of those tools that you look up?

Unknown:

Oh, God. And we have pruning tools. I mean, do you know how to you know how to write out a pole or a tree. You know how to pull Archer? I mean, think about what I come up with here. No,

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

I did. I did research. It is nine thousand dollars per day. Wow. Oh,

Curtis:

I have plenty to research then oh my god. Well, we do have two weeks, we should come up with our 15 to 660 second elevator pitch for this because we just need a video of streaming ourselves doing this

Raylene:

for an MRI browsing moment of your life.

Curtis:

I just thought 9000 for two weeks, first of all was pretty good. It's a pandemic. People are hurting. But hey, what do you think people are actually streaming? Like I can't? What are the weirdest things people would do?

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

And and do they even have like, guidelines? Are they like, try searching for this and see how easy it is and try? Like what are they? What? What is the point of this? They're paying someone $9,000 a day for what

Curtis:

so does their phrase what they're looking forward to submit? Please be interesting, comfortable and bold enough to share your experience online. You must also submit a 15 to 62nd video explaining the most memorable browsing moment of your life. You have until November 13. Drop the links now.

Unknown:

Think about the most memorable experience.

Curtis:

No, it just sounds like an orgasm or something we didn't happen just sounds weird. Let

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

me just tell you the most memorable browsing experience I ever had was like I was super young and somehow a porn website came up all on its own. And wait,

Unknown:

wait, wait,

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

it was like, you know what is in between a woman's legs which clearly I'm not interested in and I was like it started was

Curtis:

where? Were you googling the

Unknown:

wrong site?

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

No, I listen, I had to do a project on the human face. So I typed in woman's lips and well, that'll get

Raylene:

you there.

Keith:

Boom, there

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

it was.

Curtis:

I'm still curious.

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

What age 10 years old. And this.

Raylene:

Daughters they were they were farting around on the internet one day and and they were just looking at things like Barbie calm and you know, they've done Prince and Queen and like they were just doing random words calm and a couple of them were porn sites. And by the way, raeleen calm also a porn site not me.

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

Thank you for clarifying. I don't know, it looked a lot. I mean,

Curtis:

I think the only part that like I would be scared to do is that you're streaming this to the World Wide Web, whatever. You're looking up and I just I'm not sure what reactions are looking for us.

Unknown:

I know. It's kind of crazy. It's it's searching for memes. cute baby animal videos.

Raylene:

Yeah, right. Oh, I look up fart videos all the time. Cuz I just need to giggle. Like on YouTube. I'll just look up fart videos just by like baby fart videos.

Unknown:

my four year my five year old got a flop for Halloween. And forget all the candy. He's just walking around the house. You know, that's the little like putty that you push into the little plus.

Curtis:

I was wondering what that so that was his costume. How does that work? No, no, that's

Unknown:

what he got for Halloween.

Curtis:

That's what he got for. Yes.

Unknown:

So now he's not a sugar high. He's on a flowerpot. He just goes around the house just Yes.

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

LARPing every team in back of me. And

Unknown:

that was not a flop. That was really,

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

that was definitely.

Curtis:

Well, speaking of people that might be high. There are plenty of people out in the world that are carjacking and participating in vehicle thefts. And police around the country including locally and in your hometown are more than likely asking you vehicle owners to lock up your car and be on high alert. And I am an offender of not doing either of the two. I don't know which world I live in.

Unknown:

Are you serious? Yeah.

Curtis:

I had a police officer about a month ago. Give me a reality check. And I didn't know what he was doing. I was like, Oh, here we go. I'm just being profiled. No, the guy was warning me like Don't be a dump. And go into the store and leave your car. A Mercedes Benz with the keys in it lights on computer on the backseat, like chillin? Well, in my defense, I was five feet away from the door. I could see the car. There's no defense. There's insurance.

Unknown:

No, he was looking out for you, man. He was he was he

Raylene:

was a dumb. Like who? Right walking away. Mercedes.

Curtis:

I quickly realized after.

Raylene:

Yeah, I'm not I don't understand. Especially now like there was recently in Lisbon. Or do city someone got their car stolen out of their driveway. And everybody was like, oh, was it locked? And she's like, no, and my purse was in it too. And I'm like, What the fuck? Are you thinking?

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

She was

Raylene:

a 300 foot driveway and I locked that ship every night.

Curtis:

Right. Right. Right. Right.

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

You know it?

Raylene:

What's interesting cameras.

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

Yeah. And what's interesting is the, you know, the research has shown that the profile of the individual who is stealing said cars isn't even really doing it in the traditional theft sense. It's actually these youth adolescent youth that are stealing cars for the purpose of just recklessly driving them and racing them and doing crazy things. It's not like I'm going to steal your car. Because I want a car. They're just trying to, you know, have a little fun and

Unknown:

ride this on the pandemic, Arthur, we're bored. We have nothing to do.

Curtis:

Boredom does get you very far in life doing dumb shit like this.

Unknown:

Let me tell you this happened to a friend of mine actually back in August they tried stealing his truck at two in the morning. And this is where the Second Amendment comes in. He actually greeted them four of them with a baseball bat in his gun and said can I help you boys? And they flee

Curtis:

but as it should be like he didn't like shoot them he know what he should have did like guys rethink this really quick? Just put a red on one of their chests.

Unknown:

They're in pretty quick right?

Curtis:

It showed them well in Minneapolis at 12 and 13 year old led a high speed chase, they were armed to hijack a Mercedes. Wow. So as you say, you they have

Unknown:

been armed. Armed that's more than just fun man. That brings it to a whole new level.

Curtis:

And that's what I was saying when you said youth because usually we just say youth and it kind of gives them that pat on the back like Oh, they were just youth or they were just bored to your point. But you had a God and you

Unknown:

that's a different situation. Right? They're trying to prove themselves to somebody

Curtis:

yet what would you do if you're in a situation? And you were you know, in your car and they just said get out and they had a gun? I would girl scream first and then probably pass out

Unknown:

my concealed carry sticker on the back of my truck. So

Curtis:

do you have pepper spray?

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

No, I really should invest in so we're gonna get you some pepper. I know this conversation does

Unknown:

carry salt with him.

Raylene:

It was attacked by a snail

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

vampire suffers.

Curtis:

I was like did that come with like a Disney movie like just pretend Pixie

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

Get away from me. You fabulous thief.

Unknown:

The salt was cheaper than the pepper spray. So

Curtis:

definitely glitter wrong

Raylene:

out of my car, open up my Mercedes app and disable my vehicle and then be like Have a nice day. stupid ass right?

Keith:

That is exactly what

Curtis:

I do. Well, we are gonna leave you guys to pay these bills. And we're gonna come right back after this commercial break.

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Keith:

you're listening to undebatable. Here's Raylene Curtis, Steve and Bradford.

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

Alright everybody. Welcome back to the undebatable podcast. It is time that we bring in our esteemed guests today. And that would be a very dear friend of mine, Dana. What's going on? DANA is the owner and Boston salting which is a HR company. It's a boutique HR consulting firm located in Norwich, Connecticut here in the beautiful Rose City of New England. And she focuses on supporting small businesses with their HR needs. Dana is also a part time professor at Eastern Connecticut State University where she teaches a lot of great HR subject matter. So Dana, Hi, welcome to undebatable

Unknown:

Thank you for having me. It's been fun. Being able to sit here with you guys.

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

Right? Have you been offended yet?

Unknown:

No. Oh, my God, I feel like working in HR. My, my threshold is like, insane. Right. It's like the Grand Canyon. It takes a lot to offend me. It is. Well,

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

we brought you in today to focus on COVID-19 and how HR for you probably has had many changes and many people are being affected by these changes, both employers and employees and we want to know all of the nitty gritty details about all that stuff. So because of COVID what's probably the largest thing that has had an impact on employers that they've had to adjust to.

Unknown:

Well, I think it's figuring out how to afford their employees at this point. I feel like COVID happened though. We knew it was coming. The effects of it and the state shutdown back in March really threw employers for a loop. And they, they, it's always this delicate balance of like, how do we pay our employees, but then also run our business to make sure that we don't have to shut down. And I think that employers are still struggling and trying to figure out how the frick do I pay my employees and keep my employees working so that I can keep my business work open?

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

Yeah, no, it's definitely definitely a challenge that they have to they have to meet in this kind of crazy and unprecedented time, are the employees themselves being affected in a particular way that they've had to adapt or, or change that maybe has been kind of a struggle?

Unknown:

I think the most recent thing that I'm seeing with my clients is the schools shutting down and having employees who's very suddenly have to figure out childcare or have to figure out distance learning and employers, especially the market that I serve, I saw this serve the small businesses, and they, they aren't very good at pivoting, as well as some of the larger companies. So they have to very quickly shift and figure out how do I work with this employee, or support this employee so that they can take care of what they need in terms of like a school shutting down or someone being sick or testing positive? Or? It's tricky.

Curtis:

So are all your employees at will employees? Yes, I

Unknown:

don't work with TAs, I stay 10 feet away from union employer,

Curtis:

right? So they're all temp employees.

Unknown:

They're not temp employees, but there's there's no union representation. Got it. So my clients,

Curtis:

so what happens in the case where they're struggling with, you know, childcare, etc? Well,

Unknown:

yeah, and that's kind of a loaded question. We have, you know, we have the there was a piece of legislation that was passed, called the families first coronavirus response Act, which was supposed to provide paid emergency leave, essentially, when you had an employee that has to take time out of work

Curtis:

for so interesting point. So that's where I was getting into, have you found that employees are actually respecting that policy and or taking advantage of it?

Unknown:

Um, I don't think I think that there's a lot of this happens a lot with employment law, where employees are entitled to it, but they don't know they're entitled to it. Right. And so that's a duty of a lot of employers is to say, Well, this is, you know, this is your right, as an employee, this is what you're entitled to, and the employer themselves, don't 100% understand it, and 100% feel comfortable applying it.

Curtis:

And now because it's COVID, do you feel like you're going above and beyond your duty, so I would assume once you get them hired, your duty stops, or because it's COVID, you kinda are the therapist, the employer, the

Unknown:

I need a therapist these days. I said on Monday, I had a really bad HR day, it was challenging, but what happened? Just I think I had someone crying really early in the morning on a Monday and then, you know, I was saying to someone today, my job isn't to, for people to like me, my job is to make sure that things are applied fairly and consistency and consistently, and a lot of times I'm delivering bad messages or negative messages or a lot of nose and people don't, people don't like to hear now. We're all human, we don't like to hear now. So my job goes beyond just hiring, it's a lot of consultation in these circumstances of, do I have to lay my employees off? Or can I follow them? And what's the difference? Do I have to pay them? Can I have them come back to work? So it's tricky. And so I would say that you asked about employees, maybe not knowing what's available to them. Sometimes they also think they have things available to them that aren't as as an employer, and you want to be as fair as you can do your employees. But there's, you know, things that apply to companies with 50 employees or more that they want to, you know, be implied to them. Right, that are not, and it's impossible for a small company, to be able to give these benefits that large companies without going out of business. And so you have to delicately just explain to the employer employee, look, we're, we're here to support you the best we can but we can't give you six months off paid, you know, that's, and this has this happened a lot with unemployment when people a lot of people were on unemployment, they, you know, my friends said this, and they said I could collect and I you know, that that my employer said that I could collect and you know, so you have a lot of armchair HR people. And so it's it's a complicated role to have and a complicated spot to be in as an employer in terms of making sure that things because if you apply something incorrectly or unfairly, buckle up.

Keith:

Sure.

Unknown:

It's, it's also interesting, you know, we're in a seasonal business and we have very low turnover from year to year, but we do have to hire some seasonal employees. We happen to want to hire in the middle of the beginning of the pandemic even worse this year. And and not only you know, we have, I think some pretty good company morale. So again, We have a lot of our employees returned, even the seasonal employees returned 100% of a matter of fact, but to hire a few new laborers when they could make more money, quite honestly sitting thing became very difficult for small businesses now that affected my, my small our small business ability to produce income. Yeah, produce revenue, therefore pay more taxes to help pay these people. Right. It's it's a it's a it's a circle, a broken system. Yes. Yeah. So, yeah, just something that people might not be aware of on the employer side. Yeah. And I think, too, you know, a lot of companies were negatively impacted by the pandemic, and having to lay people off. But I mean, I, your business probably exploded with people wanting that service. It did. You know, it was incredible. Because in the beginning, everyone freaked out. Yeah. And some of the hospitality Oh, we do a lot of hotels locally, and, and they had canceled all the contracts. And then the same. Within four days, we had lost hundreds of thousands, quite honestly, in contracts, and it freaked us out. And then, you know, everyone settled in a little bit. Everyone got a stimulus check and felt rich, and started looking at their Yeah, carrier. Yeah, well, everyone, right, you know, and so now they're not spending money traveling, so they're gonna put it right back yard. So that ended up being okay.

Raylene:

Yeah. I know, they spent a lot of money on sex toys.

Unknown:

And making babies I know, like, I know, like four employees that are delivering in April. Wow.

Raylene:

Yeah. You know, and I was just, that's just crazy. So do you have to deal with any sexual harassment in your area? Or has that settled down?

Unknown:

We call it sexual harassment prevention, really.

Raylene:

just telling somebody on my podcast the other day, I'm like, even if I wanted to get like an actual job again, I was like, I would be in the HR office all the time. I cannot keep this that mouse shot?

Unknown:

Oh, well, I will always say, you know, I think there's a lot of employees in the workforce who don't get paid enough to have a conscience around that type of thing. So employees are making, you know, $12 an hour, I don't think it's, I don't think it's reasonable to say, you know, no one will ever sexually harass anybody. But I think when we continue to have some really open and honest conversations about what's acceptable in the workplace, and what's not acceptable in the workplace, it, it can really help mitigate any of those issues. But at the same time, you know, you employ humans, you employ humans, and they're, they are going to fuck up, and they're gonna say the wrong thing sometimes, and something's gonna slip out of their mouth. And, and or somebody is going to be joking, and the other person will not get it. Yep. Yeah. And, you know, an employer's duty and responsibility at that point is to address that situation and address that circumstance, and change change the tone of the work culture, right?

Curtis:

I think that's a key word, the word culture, people don't focus enough on what's the culture, once you work into those doors, you're inviting humans of all these different walks of life into a toxic culture. It's not what do you think is gonna happen?

Unknown:

I also, you know, I did my master's on what? What keeps people engaged in the workforce and 99% of the time, it's the social connections they have at work. Yeah. And when you're social with people that you work with, your barriers go down a little bit. And so you know, that in itself, it's that's a double edged sword, because you want your employees to be friends with each other. You want your employees to enjoy the time that they spend when they're on the clock for you. But with that relationship, they might talk about what they did that weekend, and I don't always want to hear it.

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

Right. Well, we we have a very fun portion. This is called the lightning round. Are you ready for it? I'm ready. Okay, this one, I'm gonna give you a softball one first, because I was gonna give a drumroll There we go. Alright, dog or cat. Personally, I'm

Unknown:

a dog person. Except I was telling you earlier that my dog's gonna get kicked down the daycare.

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

I know. That's so sad. Her dog jumps fences.

Raylene:

Well, it looks like he's letting himself out of the daycare.

Unknown:

Yeah, she's she's the wild one. Exactly.

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

Are you a healthy eater or in unhealthy eater?

Unknown:

Look at me. I'm an unhealthy purchase.

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

That's awesome. That's great.

Unknown:

I mean, I try to you know, I try but we're also coming into winter in a pandemic. So bring on the holiday season. Bring on the cheese. We can

Raylene:

have to lose the 20 pounds at this game so I can regain it again.

Curtis:

What was your favorite comfort food during this pandemic?

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

Oh.

Raylene:

Um,

Unknown:

we had a lot of pizza. No, pizza, a lot of pizza.

Curtis:

favorite pizza.

Unknown:

I don't know. Like, favorite type. Yeah. And even bacon.

Curtis:

And if you could have a superpower, what would it be? That's my favorite question ever.

Unknown:

Um, I wish I could read people. Mine right for human I wish that I could know like what's you know, not just people but my, you know animals and animals too. Awesome.

Raylene:

What are you most excited about right now?

Unknown:

2021 to be over me. No way when I'm moving into new office space, and I'm very excited about that.

Curtis:

Nice. Congrats,

Raylene:

and what's your favorite cereal? Um,

Keith:

oh,

Unknown:

fruit. Yeah. Don't eat cereal,

Curtis:

cinnamon toast crunch.

Unknown:

No, there used to be this great bar that we would go to brunch with and they would do white Russians with cereal milk. Oh, where they would soak the milk in cereal the night before and each brunch. I know the only time that I would have like something cereal related. But right.

Raylene:

I would just say that to that Curtis just mentioned are the two that get soggy the fastest and milk.

Curtis:

And that's why I like it. Sweet milk.

Unknown:

bucket list, places you want to travel. I really want to go to Budapest. I really went and I really want to go to Thailand. Ah, I've heard Thailand is like, amazing. Amazing. I also know someone recently who during the pandemic just got in a car with his wife and drove out west and they did like Yellowstone. And I'm a big like traveler. So honestly, like, if you told me that you would fly me to Turkey tomorrow for free. I'd probably take you up on it. So what I so I don't I mean, if it's an experience in my book, I'll take it. Awesome.

Raylene:

Nice. My middle daughter and her friends have been to both Budapest and Thailand. So if you want a connection to find out what to do, and etc, I will be happy to connect you. Yeah,

Unknown:

I think I think our next trip is going to be to Amsterdam. That's great.

Raylene:

They've been there too.

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

Well, Danna, thank you so much for coming on the show. We absolutely loved having you here in studio. And it was so great to chat with you. And thanks for your insight.

Unknown:

I hope it was, you know, not all dreary and

Curtis:

no, no, not at all. I mean, HR is huge. COVID has impacted the workplace and you know, navigating it, it's going to be something that we're gonna have to really figure out moving into, you know, the next year or even two, to be honest. So we appreciate you champion workplace culture.

Unknown:

Thank you for having me.

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

Oh, you're very welcome. Thank you. Wow, I love her. She's awesome, isn't she? She's crazy. Good. Oh, my gosh. Well, I have to tell you, I feel like as these podcasts progress, we're having more and more fun, aren't we?

Curtis:

You know, just a little bit, you know, a couple shots here and there.

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

I know.

Curtis:

I know. had none today.

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

Next time. We're doing a while. I seriously when are we going to start

Curtis:

on the wines called undebatable. And there's no wine. No, nothing apps? No, absolutely not.

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

We need to pop some frickin wine Up In This Bitch.

Curtis:

We're gonna cheers to Episode

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

Four box wines for cheap pitches. Brandon

Raylene:

wasn't technically episode three and then a pilot. Right. Exactly. Missing a month.

Curtis:

Yeah. Am I missing? I forgot to count in 2020.

Unknown:

I thought you were economically conservative box one.

Curtis:

Is that is that the type of one you drink box one.

Unknown:

Only during the week,

Raylene:

I will drink pretty much all wine. So I don't care. I'm not judgy I'll drink a box of wine. I mean, I'll drink wine from a box.

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

Or you know she's already having some as you write here. Are you a white wine or red wine drinker?

Raylene:

I'm mostly white. I mean, not sweet, sweet like not Moscato. But like Pinot Grigio, Chardonnay. There's a lot of local wines that I really like.

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

I had this, I had this red wine and now I'm going blank on it, but my dad gave it to me, like, like right around Halloween and it's like it's a red wine. It's super strong and sweet. And you usually have just like a shot of it's not like a wine port,

Raylene:

or port ports.

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

Holy God, I think I put hair on my chest and

Raylene:

like torture like 20% ABV. So yeah,

Unknown:

you want hair on your chest. Come over to your brother's house and have some bourbon. Then we'll put some errands. Just

Curtis:

some bourbon, bourbon bourbon. Oh,

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

yeah.

Raylene:

My husband drinks. It's like dirty sock water. It's

Curtis:

disgusting. You want to know what someone from New England sounds like you just listening to your brother just

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

absolutely legit. He's always like, get in the car. And we're like it's car. He's actually not from Boston, but he just has that Boston accent which is hilarious adopted from Boston isn't none of the story. New Hampshire.

Unknown:

We've actually been out of we didn't get into this right. Our family was a settling family here nor in Norwich. We've been here for 13 Generations Yeah, we

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

were one of the founding families

Curtis:

there I go offending you guys with i'd absolutely love to hear about Founding Fathers nor pilgrims.

Raylene:

You for all this stuff. Right?

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

I greatness has been inherited downwards. So I feel like if I were to have met our great, great, great, great whatever he is grandfather that was William Hyde, who was one of the 13 founders of this town. I feel like his views would have been in line with us like I feel. I don't know. Am I out there? Brandon, you're looking at me like you're

Unknown:

I feel like you're out there gotta

Raylene:

be crazy. You see us aren't even the same as my dad.

Unknown:

They had slightly different issues back the first

Curtis:

of all, you're a gay man in 2020. What do you think they were gonna say back then. Shoot. Like there's a lap and

Unknown:

accidentally fell off the cliff. I

Curtis:

don't know, I accidentally started Googling.

Unknown:

Realize like, Oh, absolutely don't like that.

Raylene:

I was at this weekend, we were driving out to visit my daughter up at UConn. And we drove by the birthplace of Samuel Huntington, which is, as you know, Samuel Huntington, or you may not know, was the first president of the Continental Congress. And he hails from Norwich. But he was actually born in Scotland. And I used to take piano lessons in his house where he was born.

Unknown:

I know where that is. That's exciting.

Raylene:

Yeah, so I have like a little tie to history. When anybody anytime anybody says who's the first president united states, I'm like the Continental Congress, Congress, or the other one

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

was truly the very first we are taught slightly incorrectly. In school. They they always say it was George Washington, but it was Samuel Huntington and maybe it's our local pride here because he was from Norwich, where Wait,

Curtis:

I grew up thinking that the first president was Pocahontas, his dad, so what just happened here?

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

I'm gonna use your line. And then there's that.

Raylene:

I think he was a chief. I don't think he was a president.

Curtis:

We call the Chiefs back, then. You know, it's ambiguous. We just, you know, you guys adopted it and changed it.

Unknown:

I will say that our ancestors did they did get along with junkets quite well, there was an agreement and they purchase for Norwegian like a take. So that that was a

Curtis:

so I'm a history fanatic. So we'll have to have some conversation about that. And then being Native American and studying Guamanians and Pequots and all that. So,

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

I mean, we didn't kill them with disease, but that was like, oops, our bad.

Curtis:

Yeah, well, wait, what? I'm not gonna let you kill me with that. That was my bad. That

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

was not an intentional thing. It was our fault. Yeah, we didn't visit our fault. COVID. We didn't know we had it. The symptoms were there for 14 days in Ms. But

Unknown:

it's like, I didn't know I hadn't

Raylene:

done the Incas. Yeah. So we just brought fancy new diseases, and they weren't prepared for it.

Curtis:

And these laws from the founding fathers.

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

Right, exactly. Right.

Curtis:

I'm just glad we're decades and centuries away from that. And we have you amazing people, and we can sit here doing this. Imagine what our founding fathers actually think this happened. I think they should be proud.

Raylene:

They want a woman and a black man talk with

Unknown:

the audacity. I think I think it's great. And in that respect, socially, I think we've come a long way. I think when I refer to the founding fathers, I, I really think that we just need to take some of their principles, but apply them to nowadays, social, you know, surround,

Curtis:

I always believe if we can just mend the two parties, like just find a nice bland, a happy medium, we just have you know, the real America, you know, be great again,

Unknown:

I agree. It

Raylene:

would be great. We could do an independent party where the middle people all come together. Wait, there is one of those and we refuse to vote for that.

Curtis:

There's that. That's amazing. I got a coin that

Unknown:

I do refer to myself as a northeast or New England Republican, because I think socially we're a lot more What does

Curtis:

that even mean?

Unknown:

Yeah, I kind of say it because I think it's a just means conservative. Economically, we're conservative, but socially, I think living in the northeast, you're a lot. You're a lot more broad into social issues.

Curtis:

I like that. Actually, I really do. We're gonna add that to Webster's dictionary.

Bradford Ricardo-Hyde:

That's a wrap everybody. Thank you so much for listening to our podcast again. This week. We're gonna be talking things Thanksgiving related next time. So make sure that you join us on the podcast already hungry already. I know already. It's crazy. All right, everybody. Thanks for spending about 15 minutes with us. We appreciate it. Have a good and see you next week. Next time.

Keith:

You've been listening to undebatable. Finally, a show proving that people can disagree and still have fun, like it ought to be. We hope you had fun too. And we'll be back soon. Until then join in the conversation with us on our website at www dot undebatable dot show or connect with us on social media, Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube. We'll see you next time. Until then, this is undebatable signing off

Dana Dowdell

Dana Dowdell is the owner and HR fanatic of Boss Consulting HR, a boutique HR consulting firm located in Norwich, CT that focuses on supporting small businesses with their HR needs. Dana is also a part-time professor at Eastern CT State University where she teaches HR subject matter.