Feb. 2, 2021

Fine Line

Fine Line

In this episode of Undebatable we welcome our guest host: Pebbles, filling in for Steve. She is the host of Peb Talks Podcast. Together we pick up where we ended last week on the topic of the underground railroad and slavery. Later we dive into this weeks craziness in the stock market, returning books to the Library that are over due, like one from Canada that was 83 years past due and the great emergence of brood X Cicada and how it's going to bee messy! Lastly we are joined by Shawn Guiney a expert on Fitness and Nutrition who shares ways to help you find ways to maintain your New Years resolutions. Don't miss all the fun on this weeks edition of Undebatable.

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Transcript

Keith:

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Unknown:

Hello, Steve, you

Bradford :

sound so girly today.

Curtis:

hands above the table

Bradford :

Exactly. On the table YouTube.

Raylene:

Hey, everybody. Welcome to Episode 15 of the undebatable podcast. Worst of all, before we get started, I would like to remind you all to share our podcast you know you're listening because we're funny. Your friends need a little funny in their life. You can connect with us. Let us know your thoughts on this week's hot topics which we all come up with on our own. If you've got any ideas, let us know. You can weigh in on the conversation at www dot undebatable dot show show show show I felt it. To make it easier. We included a link in the notes down there for the podcast show notes. So please support our podcast become a member of undebatable his Patreon page where you will have access exclusive look behind the scenes view the extras videos, photos, discounted merchandise and so much more. The link for our Patreon page can also be found down below in the show notes. And what we've decided to start doing is recording all the shit we say before we start and we're gonna put that in the Patreon because some of the best stuff comes when we don't think we're being recorded. And after

Bradford :

because we've had the wine we've consumed it and we're right.

Curtis:

Yes, in the afternoon as offered me to the highest bidder something.

Raylene:

Yes, yeah. Oh, did anybody ever answer your thing that you put out some sort of

Curtis:

it gets weird in the DM for me these days.

Raylene:

All right. And we're gonna talk about that later. Yeah, okay, good. And before we go too much further, I'm in the picture your posts.

Curtis:

Yeah, I was gonna Yeah, that's kinda Yeah, you did that yourself sang. Everyone else is allowed to do you know, as does anyone say anything else when Obama goes to the beach and he has no shirt on?

Bradford :

I've never seen that picture.

Host:

Are you kidding me? Obama's DMS are blowing up

Unknown:

exactly. And I was following suit.

Raylene:

My DMS don't blow up when I put a picture of me in a row. That's actually not true. What happens is it blows up with people going, Hey, I've got this great weight loss pill. I'm fucking serious. It happened. Okay, so before we go any further I need to introduce our guest host today, covering for Steve, we got pabs. She's the host of pebbles and Boomer in the morning on Jim in 1077. And she has her own podcast pep talks. So welcome to the show. Thank you. Honor.

Host:

I was like wondering, like, Who's next in line? Because after? I mean, you have such an awesome brother from the podcasts that I've heard. He always steps up to the plate, right? I know, you know, what if he's down and out,

Bradford :

right? And this time he was he was no, it was so funny, because when Steve told me he couldn't do it. I was like, that's okay. So I reached out to my reliable brother, who was like Brad snow storm it snow storm. And not only am I going to be tired to the snowstorm, but his wife has a haircut tonight. So I was like, well, we're screwed. Right?

Unknown:

I got you then. Thank

Raylene:

you for letting me know him. I'm just really excited to finally meet you.

Unknown:

Yeah, I think there was a lot of Thank you,

Curtis:

your podcasts, your great personality. Just kind of worked off.

Bradford :

Yes. Okay. I mean, to have you

Raylene:

I did have a little bit of nervousness because I'm like, I don't know how I'm gonna bounce against a woman. Because in my traditional life, I get along with men really well and women and get catty and bitchy with me and I'm just like, Why though? Like, I'm not a threat to nothing.

Bradford :

I have to say the end of last episode with YouTube. Oh, yes. Steve rain hit Steve and I both looked at each other and we're like they're gonna kill each other. So we were like

Curtis:

literally ring the bell I thought that meant kept going.

Host:

episode was gonna continue like I thought you guys were gonna go for it like we

Unknown:

do now. Right?

Bradford :

We actually did. So if you join the Patreon Okay, you'll hear it. Wait,

Keith:

good plug.

Raylene:

You weren't upset. Well, I don't remember being like I mean, we're having a conversation but I don't remember who

Curtis:

that question actually. So I was upset in the beginning. Just the totality

Host:

reset What happened?

Curtis:

Thank you

Raylene:

actually don't remember.

Host:

I just want to make sure that I'm on the same

Curtis:

So we were talking somehow we got into the Underground Railroad from Yeah, our last guest that was on there. So Right, right. Okay, history, etc, then we got into the Underground Railroad, which is not an actual railroad.

Raylene:

Right. I don't think I argued that. No.

Curtis:

That's just why I said the totality. So it first struck me and I was actually super angry, knowing that they weren't aware of what people of color went through during that timeframe. Like they were completely oblivious to how bad it was, right? And the comments that were made. So for me growing up in the day and age that we live in, it really was a moment of uncomfortability for me, because you don't know my lived experience, yet. You get to weigh in on politics, etc, etc. So therefore, you just you don't get it right. You have to understand the Underground Railroad, the context of it, and just know that it wasn't a railroad like if you don't know, what's the fucking railroad.

Bradford :

Hey, Steven, I and I actually, I left here and I did my research. I don't remember

Raylene:

that being the problem.

Curtis:

Because I didn't want that to take over the conversation. But I'm glad that you brought it back up to give context to what we were talking about pubs, because it actually was a moment where I was just like, I just flashed rage. Alright, but not angry in attack mode, right? either of you just angry in the fact of how did society mess up that you guys know, I

Host:

heard when listening to that, that was the message you were passionate.

Bradford :

And you could tell you weren't mad at her. Right? We're

Unknown:

passionate. We're passionate.

Raylene:

And it's still I don't see the part where we're talking to me about me at all. Yeah, you're still mad about them, not knowing it wasn't a real railroad.

Curtis:

And then we got into reparations. And that's when I was just like, wait, you owe us.

Bradford :

That's when we rang the bell. Because the passion was, the passion was raging. And we were like,

Host:

We have five minutes left, right. Like I knew Bradford and Steve, were both like, Oh my gosh, like, how are we going to cap this because it's a great conversation. And it really shouldn't be had. But it was one

Curtis:

of those moments where it's like, you know, when artists always say I'm an artist, and I'm sensitive about my shit, it was like, I'm black. And I'm sensitive about my blackness. So it was like one of those moments for me,

Host:

right? Anyone can speak to that.

Raylene:

I can't speak to any of that. Okay, I can tell you that. And I've said this to my daughters before, and I think it was one day, my daughter really respected me, because I think she thinks that because I'm a Republican, I am completely oblivious to everything that happens in the world when it comes to gay, lesbian, black, all of those things. I think she just thinks that I'm an old white guy. And, and I was sitting one day, and I and I said, I know so many amazing, strong black men. And I know a lot because I know, I know, comedians, and I didn't know any probably before I started comedy. So also, all the black men I know, are funny. So that's probably just stereotype, but on my end, but I know so many amazing strong black men that when I think about how bad slavery must have had to be for them to not fight back, it gives me chills in my soul. Because I know that these amazing strong black men instinctively would have wanted to fight to protect themselves and to protect their family. So the abuse must have been way worse than any of us could ever possibly imagine. Right? Right. And I think that one time, my daughter looked at me and she was like, Oh, I was like, Yeah, like, I'm not completely immune to the human experience. That's not mine. Right. But also, it falls into my one story that you must have all kinds of friends. Because if you don't have all kinds of friends, you don't get all kinds of stories. And I never really thought of that until I started to have black men as friends. And then, you know, it humanizes everybody around you when you no more humans. Right? Very

Unknown:

true.

Curtis:

I think it's great that you say that, because it's different when you're silent about it. And you just expect us to know that you're anti racist, or you're pro black with my lived experience. There's no way for me to just say right, you're a pro black, but then you tell me that authenticity in your story. And I'm just like, hell yes. You know, that's awesome. You know what I mean? But we have to get comfortable with having these uncomfortable conversations right or speaking up about what you know, internally is your fundamental values, but you got to understand that I don't as the receiver of that and the person who needs to hear that not I'm putting myself Right, right, right, right. My Color My Skin black people of color.

Raylene:

I will tell you that anyone else just 12 years of slave was one of the hardest movies I ever Why won't watch it. Oh, yes. You probably shouldn't. It was it was pretty enraging.

Curtis:

It was in red. You guys seen slavery? Also, I can't watch that stuff. Now.

Raylene:

I would imagine it'd be really hard to be an actor I in one of those movies.

Host:

I read that book black like me when I was in eighth grade, maybe I was old enough to like grasp, like, Oh my gosh, like I think I remember like taking a few conversations at the dinner table and being like, wow, for real like, right.

Unknown:

Yes,

Host:

this this is so like, I hate to use the term black and white but it's literally lacking My goodness, like this is literally like a human. You can't treat somebody like they're an animal, like my goodness, but like a book like that. I mean, I can't imagine what else is out there because right that moved me, you know that age, but I'm glad that I was educated in that. Do you know what I mean? That I feel like I got a good message.

Curtis:

What are your parents responses just curious at the dinner table? Like, were they receptive?

Host:

They were like, babban, right? That was that we just like, I mean, that's not discussed, but like, how do they bring up that conversation to me? You know what I mean? Like that? Why not to say why would day but it's like, it's not in there every day. So it's like, you know what I mean? They're just focused on raising two

Unknown:

children. Right.

Host:

And again, I was raised and I had, like, you know, black people in my class, you know what I mean? When I when I was being raised, so like, I understood, I didn't understand what they're going through. But like, I felt like I was their friend. You know what I mean? Like Raylene said, you know, you're growing up with all different types of people.

Raylene:

Oh, no, in my school, there was one there was one in her and her brother and sister. Just one, one family. There was one family. But it was funny, because when we moved here from Orlando, because we used to live in Orlando, which is a way more diverse area, and my daughter had come back up first term, my husband came back up while I wrapped up the house, and she was in seventh grade. And I said, hey, how was your first day of school? She goes, it's really weird. And I'm like, why? And she goes, where are the black people? I was like, Yeah, sorry about that. I don't know what to tell you. Wow. There's not I mean, then she went, you know, and then she went into Norwich public, you know, for high school. And then she's like, okay, there I found them. Here. They're just not Lisbon. Academy though. I mean, right. Well, that's for

Host:

anyone who is alumni. No, is the unfortunately the cafeteria was segregated. Yeah. Like not? Well, no, actually, no. way. No, right. But there was a wall that literally divided

Raylene:

his area from the there is actually like a pony wall. And it's just

Host:

decides to sit and everyone sits with their friends, right. And so unfortunately, the way everything falls is very, like you can see different cultures because there's it's not just black, white. There's a wide range of all different ethnicities at Norwich free Academy. And while everybody gets along, I think I like to say in high school as much as you can get along. But like, at the end of the day, it was so apparent and that always like shocked me as a student like wow,

Raylene:

I just there was I'm going back to what you were talking about with the black like me book I got this is so stupid, but it was on the back of a box of Cheerios ones. And I cut it out and I stuck it on my computer because it made so much sense to me. And it was once your consciousness has been raised, it cannot be lowered. So the earlier we have conversations about race the earlier we have conversations about sexuality, the earlier we have conversations about sex and body and autonomy and consent. These are things once you know them, you can't unknow them.

Host:

Well, that's the problem too is like we've mentioned you're being raised in a school or there's not one single person right there. Do you know what I mean? It's like, right, one little girl little boy, you know, grows up to be 18 years old, and it's like I've never met

Curtis:

Jesse Jackson, Oprah, Beyonce and all the black congregation to NFA and Norwich, Connecticut people, they have segregation issues.

Raylene:

Self segregate? Well, that was like way intense for opening. I've never done that. But

Host:

I listened I felt you know, like that conversation was so right. And I had

Curtis:

hoped there would be some follow up. So this this was actually good. So that was cool.

Raylene:

I hope I didn't come off as an asshole.

Unknown:

But you did though. No, no, no. It was all good conversation.

Raylene:

Okay, good. So today we're going to be talking about a couple of topics brewed x, y, trillions of staccatos are set to emerge after 17 years. And why does it have such an ominous sounding name? Dr. Doolittle is returned not the actual Dr. Doolittle. But the book Dr. Doolittle was returned to a Canadian library at two years after it was overdue. And Texas fifth grader cashes in his GameStop stock that his mom gave him two years ago who has been paying attention to this crazy games doc both ends in the year.

Bradford :

You know, for our listeners who don't understand what's going on, I think we should build a little context into it. And I'm gonna admit I'm a little confused though. I know that there's a lot going on with the stock market and with GameStop I've heard that thrown out there. But I'm still confused as to what really is going on. So

Raylene:

So do you want to explain or do you want me to explain? Explain this

Host:

five year old level,

Unknown:

oh, let's go

Host:

more than me know. My own brain and somebody.

Raylene:

Somebody actually did a breakdown using Beanie Babies too. Explain it to people who are connected. Oh, no, I want to hear that though, as it was on the internet, guys tell me Yes,

Host:

there are people who own billions and billions and billions of dollars worth of stock and they thought it was a strategic thing to do to invest into a stock that was failing, which is, is they're not wrong. This is a very strategic thing to do. It's been done many, many, many times called hedging your bets. Many, many, many, many, many hedge funds have gone billions of dollars from said strategy, but they've never shared it with the little guys. And the little guys all got together and they formed a giant army, which never usually happens in 2021. But they made it happen. And they attacked the stock market and they did the same strategy that the billionaires use except they got all the money in the billionaires lost now billionaires control the world right can we all so they get to pick the rules I don't know if anyone's seen in the office but one of my favorite app like little scenes is Dallas, they play this board game that has no rules and that's literally with the stock market what they're trying to do with GameStop stock and what AMC two I think there's one of that

Raylene:

one businesses that are inevitably going to fail

Host:

right? But they're trying to take advantage of that same strategy to use in their favor but they're just crying and they're sad that it didn't work in their favor haha fuck them now they shut down the market or they put it on pause for just a tiny little moment which is highly illegal to do because it's called a free market and then basically the guy I guess he's gonna have to go to a court order hearing or whatever right to like explain basically nothing Mark Zuckerberg does this shit all the time he does

Raylene:

I just I love it. Like all these billionaires are like there's billionaires like he's lost all his money lost his house now he lost his wife but has he considered not getting a daily Starbucks and

Host:

that's what I mean like pull yourself up by your bootstraps

Raylene:

maybe get a part time job somewhere to help

Host:

create a podcast isn't right now the little guy is still winning right now

Curtis:

we're still on town GameStop has done it's over it's never gonna see the peak again.

Host:

Well the peak won't go away but we can still fuck over the billionaires process right now

Curtis:

nowhere near what just happened right nowhere near the big guys are back on top they're in court now and they're fighting and they're bitching and moaning

Raylene:

No, but you know what's also happening is the exact same thing that's caused the whole thing people who have money are now hedging these bets right right so it's just took it off of one and and put it on the other but anyway, this kid his mom, right? So this kid his mom gave him six shares 610 chairs

Unknown:

Yeah, that were worth $6 each

Raylene:

so 60 bucks she invested all a Christmas gift.

Unknown:

Yeah, right

Raylene:

yeah, the dollar you know we used to do for our kids like Disney stock or whatever just a couple of shares just so see

Host:

I never heard of that before but like it makes sense if you as a family like invest in the stock market this is all like brand new to me and we only

Raylene:

do a little like a little bit but like we have five shares of Disney they send us a color certificate and it's on the wall and we're like oh yeah, we have like five shares of

Bradford :

Disney they're gonna make it magical.

Unknown:

I'm I didn't

Raylene:

know that you could buy five shares

Unknown:

very well in financing. No, I mean like

Raylene:

he's got his damn

Unknown:

gift. Like I didn't get a gift you got a gift from Disney. I did not

Raylene:

Oh, really? Oh, it's just a certificate maybe to get shipped from Wait wait maybe you have too many like we have five shares so they send us like a little piece of paper to put on our wall if you have hundreds of shares

Unknown:

don't give a damn Walt Disney Yeah, well anyway good see

Host:

for me like it's like the stock market seems scary. Oh no. Oh, ever since I was a child like I have the five year old again brain of understanding how all this works. So like that's, that's as much as I can allow myself unfortunately isn't how I explained it to all of you. But I also do invest right but I also don't invest as much as I should because I feel like if I knew the game was like Tada, I like a more elementary level then maybe I could have grasped it and now I don't want to trust my money in these people's hands because then no because the shilling there

Raylene:

yeah man Ron and all the other crap. Remember everything

Curtis:

this wasn't investing This was more like day trading and day trading and shorts and stuff of that nature. Right We should be focused more on investing this is these are things that don't always happen like the market is volatile and stuff like that. That's it's never gonna be

Host:

you can't help but wonder what if I was this 10 year old because right again, this $60 $200 right. $100 is the real winner. So the kid and I don't know if you guys know but I was fortunate enough to be able to play his audio like on the morning show. And he said that he was going to invest another 1000 and then I think he was gonna do like, I think he's putting 2200 towards like a schooling or sorry Like not only do you can tell that his family is smart, guiding him down the right line, because they gave him a gift of freaking stock, right?

Raylene:

Which he probably opened up and was like, hey, look at this piece of paper.

Bradford :

And I'm over here like dad did. Where was my stocks? Right,

Raylene:

right, right, right. Listen, if I can go back in time right now, I would invest in peloton one year ago, because if you spot 1000 shares of peloton last year, it would cost you like 20 $300. And it would be worth like $80,000 right now no

Curtis:

different from the Ubers the Facebook's and rhinos that's going public now. But the point is, is to get into investing in share knowledge of generational wealth with your kids and your family. Because that kid's winning, and I'm excited. I see his future now that he knows

Host:

$1,000 invested.

Raylene:

So let's talk about libraries. Anybody here? Take library books out? When's the last time you took out a book from a library when I was in high school? Okay, how about you? Do you know where the library is?

Unknown:

I don't even know. The place in alphabetical or numerical order.

Raylene:

Your library.

Host:

Ben Franklin invented the library. I love

Unknown:

you. Um,

Host:

I'm really trying to think

Raylene:

of Steve question. But you were sitting in Steve's

Unknown:

that's exactly how she talks to Steve. Ah, I

Host:

don't know pass. It's been it's been like cuz I even avoided it in high school. But then they like made it mandatory. So that way, it was like a baby you could be responsible for for Friday for five days and then bring it back.

Raylene:

untouched. But how about you?

Curtis:

I'm guilty for the story with my son and the last library book. All that good stuff. So yeah, um, that

Bradford :

is your local library. charge you

Curtis:

late fees? Yeah. A lot. A lot. My son's book. Oh, I was mortified. He was in class. And they told him like,

Raylene:

the most they will ever charge you is the cost of the actual book. Right? That's what a

Curtis:

six year old being told they owe a fee in class, right?

Unknown:

That's right.

Host:

They won't let you graduate.

Unknown:

Unless you Oh, yeah.

Curtis:

I found the book Six years later, and I tried to give it back to them as a gift for Christmas.

Host:

And they when they're like No, it didn't work out. COVID Sir COVID

Raylene:

Nova Scotia, a homeowner found a book stashed away in his attic that he was 82 years overdue. So I mean, how old was this homeowner like? 95?

Host:

Wait, Dr. Doolittle came out in 2000. He bought

Unknown:

the house.

Host:

We talked about you're telling me that that was based on a book.

Raylene:

Dr. Doolittle also came out in like 1986 and 1970. Now I like to spend a bunch of Dr. Doolittle movie.

Host:

They keep bringing it back for every generation. Generation. The latest

Bradford :

one is with Eddie Murphy. Eddie Murphy.

Raylene:

That's the one I know. Yeah.

Unknown:

There were other people's animals.

Raylene:

Yeah. Well, I mean, it's always been Dr. Doolittle,

Bradford :

not just you, Curtis. There are other ways too.

Host:

Not so much. How many years was 82 years ago? I'm like really trying to put my hands. I couldn't tell you how

Raylene:

well this is 2021 1920 1921. Dr. Doolittle, they had that kind of sense. Oh, yeah.

Unknown:

Yeah, imagine finding that goal. So here's the thing. So he said,

Raylene:

Bradford did the math on this assuming a charge of 15 cents a day, the late fee would have been $3,000. But they no longer charge late fees. Let me give you a little tip. If you are out there. If you are local, to the area that we're in now, almost all libraries in this area have a max out of $2. So no, doesn't matter how long your books have been out. It's $2. If you were in a school that might be different. We're talking about public library. And I learned this because I had five books that I forgot to return for, like I don't know, because I used to be a huge library person. I went all the time. And then one day did it and then one day, like we went on vacation though,

Unknown:

it was on camera.

Raylene:

Well, we went Alright, hold on. We're gonna cover that two months since I fit anyway, I went back and I thought I was like, I had like, $45 ready to pay them because I was like, I the fucking books are late. And they were like, it's $8. And I was like, I didn't realize I could rent them for that long anyway. Don't freak out. Sometimes if you have to just drop them in the book return. I got a question. Yeah.

Host:

I remember now the last time I rented it was a DVD from the Canterbury Public Library. And they would not let me use my brother's library card. Because he had the same last name. And I was like, What? What's the problem? Like wouldn't find him? Yeah, like just add it to the end of Eric now. I'm Erica. Right.

Unknown:

It was just

Raylene:

me Erica. Right. So you assume my gender I am Eric. Oh, that gets you okay.

Host:

There was I think there was a few like late fees. For the times that like cuz it was like next day because the library's tight with their DVDs they are a lot of people want to see so many.

Raylene:

So I think there was you even have a DVD player anymore anyway.

Host:

No we set up the VHS on my watch Land Before Time. Oh. And it's sad but I talked about it on my podcast Sarah the dinosaur Sara. I don't know you guys are her own opinions Sara

Raylene:

like try Sarah. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

Host:

she's era. I didn't know that until after the movie.

Raylene:

But anyway, she's a bitch and I hate her. My daughter would come in and Peter, my daughter would come in during the sad part and she would just sob Oh, so I would just tell her I would say when it gets to the sad part come in and I'll fast forward to for you. Okay, yeah, cuz she would get crushed every single time. I'm like, bitch, you've seen it. You know, it's coming. It's still super upsetting. But it really like,

Bradford :

come on. Lion King did that for me. I was in the movie theater. And when Mufasa died, you know, like symbols, dad.

Unknown:

Yeah. Oh, I lost and then I lost it again, when he's talking to him in the cloud. Right.

Raylene:

All right. So this is a complete sidebar, but we were watching inside out. You guys seen inside out? You guys don't have any kids. It's like the one of the Disney movies are no, that was

Bradford :

me. I have a husband, who is a kid. And he does have a kid I have. I apologize

Unknown:

as a kid, but that you have a husband who has a kid. No, no husband is the kid is a kid who's just making sure.

Raylene:

All right. So listen, Pixar has this movie called inside out. And it's about your emotions. And it's about memories and how you store them and how they come back to you. It's like Wally, it was it was it was so hard. And there's a spot and everybody in the theater is crying and I'm crying and my daughter's crying. My daughter's best friend is crying and the little kid behind me farts. But it wasn't just one part. It was one of those bubbles. Yeah, no,

Unknown:

not today.

Raylene:

I hear it. My daughter's right here. And we look at each other and we start to cry. And this is going on endlessly. It had to have been 45. I know. The mom goes Stop it. And he goes I'm trying. This is the most cry part of the movie. And we're everybody's bawling. But now me and my daughter's best friend who are the only ones who have heard this are crying and hysterical laughter because and now every single time I watch this movie, I'm like, this is where that kid farted.

Bradford :

Right? memory. And that mom never gave little Jimmy beans before movie ever

Unknown:

again. Mommy keeps coming.

Raylene:

And we've all had those parts where you're just like, oh, not now. And your body's like, nope,

Host:

gotta go. Here's the part where I had diarrhea.

Raylene:

hysterical back to the library. I now download books from the library to my Kindle. Yes, you can't learn yours. No, no, it's it's, um, there's an app called Libby. And it attaches with your library card to your library and whatever libraries you're connected to. And you can download it.

Host:

Can you get the library card through the app?

Raylene:

No, you have to actually go get

Host:

it. Sorry. You lost me there.

Unknown:

Why can't you just get your card?

Host:

Why can't you just get a library card on the app. So you

Unknown:

really do not want to walk in that book.

Host:

Right now. Because I've done this multiple times. I have a hard time again, getting over the fact that my brother's library card can be used for me.

Unknown:

But again, why not just right.

Raylene:

But my daughter lives in New York City. And because all of our Kindles are connected. And almost anytime I want to book on Libby, I can never get it. Because you know, it's attached to like Slater library into its city. So there's nothing but my daughter was in New York City. So whenever I want a book, I asked her she finds the book she puts on her Kindle, which uploads to my account, and then I download it on my Kindle. And then I read it and then it tells you a week ahead of time your book is about to come up and on the day that it's due, it just disappears from your Kindle.

Host:

Why do you have to give it back?

Raylene:

One thing I always wonder like, what do you mean you have 12 copies of a digital book?

Bradford :

Probably. No, I understand. It's like licensed.

Unknown:

licensing, like Yeah, yeah, but I don't care. It's I'm just gonna rent it again. Right, right. Well, you

Raylene:

get sometimes you got to wait in line.

Unknown:

There's not 12 people there.

Raylene:

Yeah, no, it depends. Like if it's one of those popular books or Oprah just mentioned it fuck you're not getting it for like seven months.

Curtis:

I want to know if you're listening to this. Do you know that you can download what is the Kindle Kindle whatever Libby Libby Libby to use your local library and every one of the 12 fucking people that are holding up space right now.

Raylene:

Not Well, I mean, if I'm going to ask for a book, like if I'm asking I want it now if I have to wait in line, I'll ask my daughter and if I can't get it, then then I'll just fucking buy it on Kindle.

Bradford :

So that's actually something thanks for bringing that up. Curtis. So you can actually that is the topic of the week, go to our website undebatable dot show, click on leave a comment and you can actually leave a comment just like the links as down below. No one's It yet it's really pissed me off.

Unknown:

What do you want that What do you want? What do you want them to comment on them? Yeah

Raylene:

What do you want them to comment that right there? Have

Unknown:

you ever downloaded Libby just let us know it No, no,

Raylene:

well no tell them go go frickin download it now attach it and then download a book and tell us all about it. Tell us what book you're gonna download first when you get your living first

Unknown:

return on the comment, I'm gonna cash up you $20 for lawn care, you go go to www

Raylene:

right now. Everybody on

Host:

podcast.

Raylene:

I'm gonna do it. Alright, so finally brewed x y, trillions of cicadas have emerged after 17 years. And why do they have such an ominous sounding name? I'm gonna let you handle this. Bradford. Your idea and I am so creeped out by this. I'm an HR freak.

Bradford :

So these bugs have been lurking beneath the surface since 2004. The bugs that we're talking about our course are this brood x. So cicadas are interesting species, they actually only emerge every 17 years. It's a survival tactic. They're thinking, Hey, we're really going to throw off our predators because lots of predators for certain migrations or hatchings actually memorize the time and place that these events occur. For example, in Zimbabwe, in Africa, the water buffalo cross this particular river in their migration path every single year, on the same day, right. And the crocodiles and alligators swarm to this area of the river because they know what's going to happen on that day. Nature has an internal clock that we just can't figure out.

Raylene:

So these guys are like, okay, it's at a bar at you know, right after happy hour, right? We're ready for the picket.

Bradford :

So these bugs are amazing. They go underground, and they lurk there for 17 years, and then boom, they hatch. There are 15 states that are going to experience the emerging bugs, and there could be as many as 1.5 million cicadas per acre. That's why of course, we're talking trillions of cicadas they are loud as hell and when they hit your windshield in your car, they make that nice green spider that's super hard to get off. So for the states that are going to be contending with this good luck

Unknown:

wait is Can I get one of them? So you

Bradford :

know all the rich people that listen to us on the west side of Connecticut like Vantage literally it stopped at the Connecticut River so we're safe

Curtis:

$900 an hour Greenwich I'm coming ckg the bug zapper

Raylene:

Yeah, you know,

Unknown:

Gonzalez, would you pay me

Raylene:

What are you gonna do? Like stand there with your bug zapper and just slap them because i mean i i joined with you. Let's go

Bradford :

Can you picture this like they're coming at his face?

Host:

He's like, No, you said 1.5 million so I think you would just spin you'd hit like 1000

Unknown:

freakout oh

Raylene:

I don't have like I have one of those handheld tennis racket zappy things and it makes my life happy to just like just die bugs die.

Curtis:

I was until Pepsi just reiterated how many there was of them. Yeah,

Raylene:

I would spin in a circle.

Bradford :

I had a wasp fly into one of those and it got stuck into the little square. And it just fried I mean the thing was,

Raylene:

you just looked at it and you joy enjoyed it and you're like you had a family now. First of all, it was a was the last block them. Yeah, as as a beekeeper let me just say right now leave baby bees alone. Yeah, these are wonderful. You know what though until you become a beekeeper you can't from a distance tell what they are because bees and and bumble bees are while everybody knows a bumble bees aren't there. They don't make honey. They're cute or they do but they only make an effort themselves. Regular bees are adorable and they're fuzzy. And people a lot of times think that yellow jackets are the same thing as bumble bees but your if it's not fuzzy kill the

Bradford :

bumble bees don't even hurt you. They're like they're super Yeah,

Raylene:

Bumble. They're also not bothering you buddy Hornets and wasps and yellow jackets and those things kill the fuck out.

Host:

Oh yeah. Last time when I was eight years old. I'll never forget this. I was wearing this dress that I thought was the coolest thing and if you couldn't even catch me dead in this thing now. It looked like a farm like it was all bright green and had a barn on it now is in sunflower era

Unknown:

cute. Yeah.

Host:

Oh all over super cute. Right?

Raylene:

I made that for my daughter. It looks like it was

Host:

like one of those like handmade texture. But I don't know I'm so proud of it. And I remember it was a sunny beautiful day. We were coming home from my grandma's house and we were on 395 by the Plainfield exit before we're like the Plainfield McDonald's where you would get off and I remember like a mile before the exit a bee flew into the window in the backseat and flew up my dress.

Unknown:

Yes, I'm

Host:

freaking out. freaking out like already an eight year old freaking out because there's a been a pebbles in a car.

Unknown:

Everybody,

Host:

everybody was getting flash. I remember I got stung like maybe once or twice because of the chaotic scene in the back seat that my dad tried to pull off, go to the McDonald's and get a cup of ice right and then I remember still like because like i When my first memories being stung by a bee, like that was like What changed?

Raylene:

You have to change the narrative if you were stung more than once, it was not a bee. It had been a yellow jacket or Wow, it was so bad. Because I was terrible. I got murdered by seven white face Hornets one time Oh, stepped right on their nest because it was a ground their ground work. And yeah, they came up and just ate the fuck out of me, I believe that I've worked with like, I've been a beekeeper for five years, I've only been stung once, right? But in all the time they got stung before that I don't get freaked out by bumblebees or bees, honey bees or Bumble. They don't like I will pick a bee up cuz they love pools and I have a pool and so they'll come and you know, they'll get in, I'll just pick them up and I'll put them like whatever.

Host:

I'll let them crawl me things in the ground. How do you prevent that from happening? fire burned out fire? No, because like my dad would be like, mow the lawn. And like before I know it. He's like,

Raylene:

yeah, my my husband. That's happening my husband's so many times where he sent me a picture one time of his Yukon hat because he always wears a Yukon that just chopped to fuck, and I'm like, What happened? He goes ran ran over a hornet's nest. And so he's like God, he dropped his hat on the ground and then ran over it with a lawn mower.

Curtis:

I'm gonna go that'll burn the house down and burn crashed the car.

Raylene:

Yeah, my husband will pour kerosene. Once he finds where they are. He'll pour kerosene in and then just light it on fire. And it's like a ground tiki torch for a little while.

Bradford :

I always had this joke with my brother, not brain and my other brother Harlan that would always say to my mom, and we were swimming in a pool because he would always like throw me in and like hold me under and stuff. So I'd always be like, I'm gonna hold him under my mom's like, No, don't do that. I'm like, he did it to me two wrongs. I'll make right that whole shit. So anyway, I was like, Huh, so he was on the edge of my Ellen's pool. And under her deck going around the pool, all of these horns just came out and attacked his face and his body. And he's like, and he just like, literally by accident. I mean, he was in his bathing suit, but he fell into the pool. And like everyone else is like in panic, and I'm like, really calm. And I just look at my mom. And I'm like, Can I hold him under now? And she's like,

Raylene:

also karma? Yeah.

Bradford :

A poor Oh, my God. It was hilarious. But yeah, no, cicadas are really cool. If you are in one of the 15 states that has just just Yeah, but if you are in one of those 15 states, then I pity you. They can be as loud as lawn mowers. And as messy as a bucket of paint just hitting your windshield. So they

Host:

go away. No, they come every 17 but

Bradford :

the thing is, they think they've got nature tricked, but they don't. So they come out and they're like, Hi, predators, You'll never catch us. And then it's like a feast. I mean, the predators. Millions.

Unknown:

What a mess, right? Why

Curtis:

they mass reproduce?

Bradford :

Well, it's crazy. Like we got a fuck right now. Because if we're gonna continue this tradition, we got to get it on.

Raylene:

So when it's loud outside, I'm like fucking sakata. Is that means that's actually what they're doing. Yeah, right. Yeah, there they are.

Unknown:

That's the Qaeda. cicada cicadas.

Raylene:

sacado. Whatever. No, really? Yeah, like, I'm just kidding. I have no idea. Potato, potato cicadas? I gotta call the whole thing off. Okay. I don't know.

Host:

It's hard to like,

Raylene:

I don't know. I'm like, I'm from New England. We always make ours with everything. We were very snotty and old pocket like, Oh, yeah. Park the car. You know, like we're aren't appearing ants in the south. Right

Host:

now, but cicadas should be an S. Right.

Raylene:

Yeah, well, yeah. Yeah, if it was Italian, it would be a Chiquita.

Curtis:

Right? I'm not gonna lie. When I first read it. I was like, piccata.

Raylene:

So we're gonna take a 62nd break where I don't know, is it gonna be me and you talking about instacart? Again,

Unknown:

gotta pay some bills.

Raylene:

And then we're gonna come back and talk to our guests. Sean guinee. Curtis, where were you? I thought you were gonna miss the podcast.

Curtis:

I was grocery shopping. And it was rough. I had to run all over town to get everything on my list. And I got elbowed dropped by a little old lady over a pack of toilet paper. I don't see what's so great about shopping. It's a pain.

Raylene:

That's because you're doing it wrong. I did all my shopping while we were on the last commercial break. And most of it will be here by the time the show was over. See what

Curtis:

how did you manage that? Did you get yourself a personal shopper?

Raylene:

Nope. Even better. instacart. Instead of having to play separate orders at every store, I can place one order for all my favorites from a variety of local grocery stores on instacart and they'll be delivered to my doorstep in fast as an hour. They even let you know when your favorite items go on sale. Sweet.

Unknown:

How can I get in on this?

Raylene:

Just click the link in the show notes that will let instacart know that we sent you and it'll help support our show. Not only that our listeners get free delivery on their first order over $35 so it's a win win for everyone

Curtis:

heading over there now instacart saving you time and money. Now that's undebatable

Keith:

you're listening to undebatable here's Raylene Curtis, Steve Bradford.

Raylene:

Hey everybody. Welcome back to the show and I would like to introduce our guest Sean guinee. He is a fitness editor. nutrition expert that teaches systems so that his clients can look good and feel great every day, he helps high performing professionals take better control of their health so they can focus on their work and family life. He has been in the industry for 12 years and currently works out of his facility in Lebanon, Connecticut, or virtually. So if you're off in California, or Wisconsin or Minnesota, you can probably still work with them. And he believes fitness and nutrition should be simple, but no simpler. Shawn, welcome to the show.

Unknown:

Thanks for having me.

Raylene:

So I have a question about this nutrition should be simple but no simpler. What does that mean?

Unknown:

Well, let me give you a scenario. And you tell me if if it makes sense to you imagine you're wanting to lose weight, or you want to get in shape, or just you want to be healthier in general. And the first thing you want to know is what diet you should go on. I don't believe diet, by definition is the food you eat. So it should be built around the things you like, and the things you already do. And you make success from the ground up. So simple means take what you know, take what you do, and don't change what's not broken.

Bradford :

So one of the main reasons that we brought you on this week is this is the time of year where traditionally, a lot of folks, you know, they set their new year's resolutions, they said they were going to do it, and for the most part they probably have, but now they're getting to the end of the month. And this is the tipping point, right? This is where a lot of people, I guess, decide, you know, gosh, maybe maybe I can't do this. And it could be for a variety of reasons. It could be because they don't have enough time in their schedule anymore that they've allocated. Maybe it's fallen off the priority list. Maybe they feel overwhelmed, or maybe they feel it's not working. I don't know, there's a ton of reasons. But

Raylene:

maybe they're absolutely addicted to sugar

Bradford :

that I am absolutely the magnetic sensor guy, I need to like not have too much sugar. So with that being said, what are some simple, foolproof ways to help people stay on their resolution to stay fit and healthy.

Unknown:

Um, top two that I would say always work and never fail is choosing the things that you absolutely love doing. We all grew up well, not all of us. But I'm a millennial or an older millennial. So I would say that my generation was the last ones to be outside all the time. And picking activities is better than a workout. A workout should be something very specific, you can make smart goals off of it, and you can really hone in on something you want. But when you get started, that's overwhelming. Because you're at the bottom of the barrel, you're you're really figuring things out. So that's figuring out your exercise selection. It's figuring out what challenges you what feels overwhelming to you, which is usually not a lot. So it's kind of not demeaning, but frustrating. And you got to find things that are done post smile on your face. By the end of the hour,

Host:

I looked up How long does it take to form a habit. It's just something that I was curious about when looking at resolutions. And Google says 66 days to form a habit, what would you say in order to format 66

Unknown:

falls in the middle of habit change. So the old thing is 21 days makes a habit. And that's actually where it starts. 66 is usually when the habit starts to stick in my experience. 66 is right around the halfway mark. If you can last for 120 days, you're never going to change it if you like it.

Host:

Why is it just like the human brain Lego,

Raylene:

I like how you said if you like it. That's that's the key there.

Unknown:

Yeah, you know, you'd be surprised on how much you come to appreciate something small. It's kind of like watching a little kid where you're starting to get him to brush your teeth every night. And you have to constantly remind them and you get them to do it for a couple months. And you no longer have to remind them because everything that the brushing your teeth benefits you with, with whether you consider just fresh breath or clean mouth or something that's a habitual routine, you start to appreciate the small things that when you skip that day, you're like, oh, man, something's wrong. You know, whether it's you can taste your bad breath or you feel like you missed something in your routine. Your goal, the point of a habit is to make it part of your lifestyle. So it has to be something that you no longer think about it. And what you're really trying to do is reprogram your brain to automatically seek it out without you thinking about it. The hardest part is to think about it all the time

Curtis:

I the biggest thing I've learned so I've been journaling or blogging when I get a chance on my social media, my weight loss journey. So I've lost like 45 pounds, maybe like so it's been great just wellness, total wellness and weight loss. But most importantly, one of my friends gave me a tip on calorie deficit and running that and making sure you understand what your calorie intake is and your body mass. Could you give us like an elevator pitch on what's the smartest way or the responsible way to lose weight? Because there's a lot of ways to lose weight. But what's responsible?

Unknown:

You know, a lot of those questions are loaded where you know, food has almost become a religion. So you start to get like in a debate about what's best. And it's really more what's consistent. So calorie, you can't lose weight without a calorie deficit. But the question is, is are you ready to count calories, look at your food and kind of minimize what you're actually consuming based on the number or is it easier to start cooking again because you don't cook and you rely on other people's eating out or someone else cooking for you. So it's really an individual question, but scientifically speaking, you cannot lose weight without calories. deficit. The question is, is how do you get enough nutrients in while creating the deficit. So, you know, we live in America, and we have plenty of food. And yet 60% of our produce goes to waste each week. So I would definitely say that fruits and vegetables are something you have to acquire again. And that's definitely a habit, I would tell everyone to seek out because your taste buds change as you consume more,

Bradford :

tell us a little bit about what you do. And that includes some meals that you kind of have like this food.

Unknown:

Yeah, so I offer food prep. I've been I've been under the radar since 2020, and COVID. And

Raylene:

are you our local Hello Fresh. I know.

Unknown:

I was hellofresh. Before hellofresh was known in eastern Connecticut. I originally started off with a food prep company with a partner that didn't end so well. So I ended up restarting under my fitness brand. And I haven't stopped I've served over 20,000 meals now. And I've kind of slowly pulled back from the media side of things of telling people about and just focus on the clients that are still with me because of everything going on in the world. But um, I create systems for individuals, and I offer food prep to my clients, because there's no way I can keep up with all of the meal prep services coming out today. They're just as such a larger volume than me, you're playing an uphill battle.

Raylene:

Alright, so it's time for the lightning round, and I'm gonna be completely evil and start off with stickers or Skittles. Oh, yeah, cuz there's protein in stickers. Gotcha.

Unknown:

Good. So, favorite food? I would probably have to say meatloaf with a ketchup glaze. Beautiful. That's awesome.

Host:

meatloaf with a ketchup glaze. I'm sorry, I like McDonald's. I'm such a I'm the worst person.

Unknown:

Um, McDonald's doesn't even offer meatloaf. How

Raylene:

does that even work? What I mean? a hamburger is probably the same for her.

Host:

No, it's the opposite. I'm not I didn't eat a hamburger until I turned 21. really super serious. Why? Because I don't eat anything. I eat like a five year old. I think like a five year old. I eat like a five year old. Out of all the fast food restaurants which is the best which is the least evil. Actually, I

Unknown:

have a resource I give out to my clients that offers you a healthy meal from each restaurant from fast food. I don't think that you can really separate any of them. You can kind of take something off the menu make it healthy, though. Okay, fair enough. Gosh, can you hear those?

Host:

McDonald's is the biggest one. So can I go even deeper in the lightning round and ask which meal in McDonald's then because I hate to say but I only eat the nuggets and the French fries. So neither.

Unknown:

Honestly take any fast food chain that offers fries and all you have to do is ask for a water and no fries and your sandwiches. Fine. Oh,

Raylene:

I'm sorry. Water and fries. I'll just do the water and fries and skip the burger. 100% All right. Well, good to know. Thank you.

Unknown:

Yeah, yeah. Favorite water? What's favorite? What

Raylene:

water there's levels to Lebanon town water.

Unknown:

Oh, well, I'm on a well, so I wouldn't have a problem here. So I would say that I'm Poland spring guy since I have a cooler a bubbler. I would say that's my favorite water though. I would say a bubbler water is fine. I would say there's levels to water game though. I mean, you can't go wrong with seltzer or anything else but water.

Raylene:

Yeah, no water guy. I'll take a white cloth.

Host:

Is there a difference between Fiji water and polar Rico water there we go.

Unknown:

That's no. mean What? No, it's okay.

Raylene:

Hold on. I will I will educate you here everywhere in the world has different minerals in their water. So they all write slightly different but what one you're going to find best is going to be the one that tastes most like the one that you grew up with.

Unknown:

Because that's the one are you still true I can still go into new one and drink water right from the FOSS and be fine. Right.

Raylene:

Last time I tasted like tobacco.

Unknown:

I will I will add your water question. When you're thinking of water, you have to remember that only 1% of water on this planet is freshwater so it's all coming from the same sources. Yeah, true. Do you drink wine? Do I drink wine? Yeah, he looks like a craft beer guy possibly drink? You look like a craft beer. Possibly drink but I'm definitely more of an IPA beer guy. Oh, yeah. drink wine occasionally.

Curtis:

These are for this is for us trying to get a summer body.

Unknown:

So here's how you want to think of alcohol one a drinker. Yeah, and you've pretty much maximize the idea of what alcohol and benefits bring. So if you're drinking more than one drink, you've already screwed yourself

Raylene:

100% once your body starts to process alcohol, it stops processing all other carbs, proteins and fats until the alcohol is gone because alcohol is poison. Shawn, let me give you a little right Am I right, Shawn? Yeah, look at that. Let

Bradford :

me give you a little behind the scenes teaser here. So we drink wine during every episode. Sure, I get made fun of because I don't even finish the glass. You know, I usually finish his railing usually finishes at four See, I'm what according to what he said, I've only had one so I'm better than all of you

Unknown:

and remember that a glass of wine

Raylene:

a glass of wine is what high five?

Unknown:

A glass of wine is five to six ounces, not how you pour.

Raylene:

Yeah 100 but this makes me mad when I go to a restaurant a glass of wine is supposed to be five to six ounces and they'll give you a three ounce pour and charges $16 and I'm like, okay, excuse me fancy fucking round.

Host:

The waitress comes out and pours it in front of me then it's worth apparently two extra ounces. Exactly.

Curtis:

I want to use or exhaust all of my calories that I'm allowed in a day on one What is wrong with that? You go white.

Unknown:

Just remember that whatever you consume is what your body repairs itself on.

Raylene:

So I'm built on grapes. Perfect. Yeah,

Unknown:

yes, I'm pretty sure we have essential nutrients and it doesn't cover one of them.

Raylene:

Right? You are I know Shawn how do we find you

Unknown:

fit and fresh solutions

Bradford :

on Facebook and my website is fitting fresh solutions.com That's amazing. So if you want to check them out, check out his social media his website also on our website under our guest profile you'll find his links there as well.

Raylene:

awesome guys have any opinions on weight loss anybody lose any weight this so far this year? Boom Boom Boom

Unknown:

47 pounds this year? Oh this year?

Raylene:

I mean, if we want to talk about how much I've gained and lost it's more than you weigh in your whole life Mr.

Curtis:

Maybe like five pounds this year since we started three now if I

Raylene:

did, the first two weeks of the year I lost 13 pounds but then I regained them immediately when my addiction to sugar just reared its ugly head.

Curtis:

I will say calorie deficit is the way to lose weight when you understand the calorie deficit game you're you're really winning and the liquor and you really just have to just quit.

Unknown:

Yeah, that's that's probably why I'm gonna stay fat as he holds the wine in

Curtis:

Barnstable when's the last time I had a drink the last time I was here. We're bad for you. You know,

Raylene:

the key is if you over Oh, you're adults, you can throw it all up and then you have it's a zero again. Sorry. Sorry, I'm an alcohol bulimic. That's how that works. I will. I will drink my face off. Eat everything I want and then throw it up at the end of the day. I can't do it when I'm when I'm sober.

Unknown:

I can't wait college

Curtis:

days to clear more room for more. But other than that, no.

Raylene:

Oh yeah, you're doing the booton rally. Me too. It's embarrassing. When at my age. I

Curtis:

didn't know there was a name for it. I just it's called a buton rally. Wow. buton rally

Raylene:

rally means puke and keep going. That's cute. Did you guys not know that? That's you

Bradford :

you learn something every frickin you

Unknown:

know, C or

Raylene:

C Series. It's gonna burn everyone right now booting rally I'm telling you right now it is a thing. I did not make it up

Unknown:

boot and rally.

Curtis:

You guys drink throw up and then was like, Oh, I kind of feel better.

Host:

Like, when I turned 21

Raylene:

I didn't even type in all the words. As soon as I typed the boot it said boot and rally.

Unknown:

It all said boot and nuke

Host:

to like a dorm room or whatever. And I didn't drink until I turned 21. So that's me too. Wow, we're good. Oh, God. See, this is also the reason why like giving up alcohol for like, 100 days for me is like okay, but right. Because you know what I mean? Cuz 21 is like, Whoa, you can pick up pretty quick there.

Raylene:

Some follow up questions? Yes. Do you have any siblings? Wait, wait, oh, you

Host:

do have older brother. He's

Raylene:

old. And you still wait until 21? Yeah,

Host:

I remember. It's so funny. Cuz we've shared this with our parents like he we had one of those ceilings that like is the phone that you can live. Right? So he we lived in raised ranch. And he had the downstairs bedroom and he would lift up and put like alcohol bottles, like and he would tell like, don't tell like, and I would never tell him I would never, I would never drink it. I don't know what it was like I don't I really enjoyed being like the observer. Like, I felt like I was learning everyone's mistakes. And I was judging them internally.

Raylene:

So even in college, you still waited till you were 21.

Host:

But then when I was 21, I was like,

Unknown:

legs.

Host:

So when I listen, I was like, right. And then my friends were like, What is wrong with you? And I was like, Well, I don't have a towel ready? And they were like, Yeah, but we you could have been doing this and I was like, Yeah, but now I'm

Unknown:

able to do right.

Bradford :

So I lived with a roommate before I got married. And he he likes to drink. He still likes to drink which is cool. He's not he doesn't he's not an alcoholic, but he likes to drink. You know, an alcoholic, right? No, no,

Raylene:

I like to drink.

Bradford :

But he um, he knows I'm a lightweight. And so I had

Raylene:

a half a

Bradford :

glass of wine, every podcast, I know. And I'm like, No, but so he had made me a Roman coke. And we like Appleton rum. It's super good rum from Jamaica. And I frequently have to go to the bathroom and I drink even just like a little bit. So I went to the bathroom and he would like sneak more ramen. And then I'd come in and I drink it and then he'd sneak more ramen. And every time I leave like he'd pour and I'm getting drunker and drunker. So I'm not noticing that Glass really isn't going down. And of course, the concentration of rum is going up for soda. But I'm also not tasting it because I'm getting really drunk. So by the time I was like, this thing won't end. I'm like, I'm just gonna chug and he was like, Oh, and I did. Well, let me tell you threw up five minutes later, I couldn't even get up the stairs. He called me he's straight. I'm gay. We live together. But he called me princess. He picks me up to my bed and just slams me there. And he goes, night fucker like that was?

Unknown:

Did you secretly enjoy that night? No, no,

Bradford :

I was puking later, and the whole room would not stop spin. I

Unknown:

hate I remember yelling. I was so drunk. I was yelling at the room. I'm like, stop spinning. You stop. Where's the button, stop this thing. You already know

Host:

you're like, I hate myself.

Raylene:

I am a purposeful vomiter like when I get to and I've raised two children who the same way when you get to the point that you know that the room spinning is inevitable or the room spinning has started. I'm just gonna at that point, my liver, my lungs, my body. it's it's it's full. So it needs to go. And sometimes I'll do it early in the night. I was like, I definitely peaked too soon.

Host:

And then the once you get it out, it's like round two, right?

Raylene:

A lot of times by my age, a lot of times, I'm just like, okay, behave now. Like right, calm down. Don't get too far.

Unknown:

I didn't know how to do that.

Host:

And in those situations, and like I luckily, I always have good friends and I trusted at least one other individual. But like I remember I went one time with a guy to like I was meeting a guy at he already had like a party going on, like at a dorm room. And he it wasn't his it wasn't his dorm. But like he was hosting it well with the other people. So I was one of his friends. You know, everyone else was everyone else's right. So when I got there and again, never drank before and he was like, here's a White Russian and I'm like, and the White Russian has got like glue on and vodka and cream. And I wasn't planning on drinking that it tastes so good. No, I like it. But it makes was something else I had. And again, you're brand new and drinking. I had no idea what the heck I was doing. So I remember being at this person's like party, and we were all watching Sharknado and I went and I threw up in their bathroom. Yeah, it was really bad. And everyone knew everyone knew. And then I came out and I was like, well, I feel better. But like everyone was like, Oh, this girl can't hold her leg. And I'm like, No, I can't. Because I just started drinking. Dammit. So like,

Bradford :

I didn't start drinking until I was 21 because I was a good boy.

Unknown:

I don't know how I believe that. Yeah, gay male knows, right? No, I Nope. I am I

Raylene:

he looks like a nerd.

Unknown:

Are you kidding me? So anyway, so

Bradford :

I go to Foxwoods, with my friends. And they're like, Alright, what do you want for your first drink? And one of them was like, well, you like coffee, they're like, you should get a sombrero. It's kulula and it's good to drink because it's late, it won't do anything to you. And I was like

Raylene:

literally the same thing that she just had what without the vodka, right?

Bradford :

So I get it fall in love with I was like, this is like coffee milk. So I had to and you know, clueless, they're, like, smaller served than those.

Raylene:

And they're also not that much alcohol per serving. Right. But

Bradford :

what's that? It's like shorter. Glass. Right. So I had two of those. Right. And you know, the casino loaded with ice because they're trying Right. Right. So I had to and I think it was all in my head. I'm pretty sure it was all in my head. But I was in your head. I can't drive home. Right?

Unknown:

Right. Yeah.

Bradford :

In every episode, if you've noticed, they tend to break out on the song. No, I actually have a common thing that these two

Host:

were so that song. Right.

Unknown:

undebatable next month on the Patreon page, we're gonna have Yogi undebatable musical, featuring

Host:

undebatable when that duet came out, I remember being like

Raylene:

every single song. I know everybody here but like, that's a song.

Curtis:

We're doing a 32nd karaoke challenge.

Bradford :

We should Oh, I like that. Do you think so? I don't know. You know,

Host:

he would say he would do anything you've put on the spot. Okay. So many times where we've been off air I'll be like, are you ready? Like are you sure you want to do this? He's like, Oh, yeah, God. Whatever you need. Okay. And then sometimes they'll be like, you know what, like, paints you this way right? Like to the listener? He's like, Yeah, I don't care.

Unknown:

Okay,

Raylene:

great how we painted me as a racist at the end of the last one and this one I got to recover.

Bradford :

Yay. Recovering alcoholics recovering racist. It's all here.

Raylene:

On that really awkward and notes. I want to thank everybody for I can't believe I wrapped it up with I'm a racist.

Host:

Well, thanks for having me. Thank you bring the issue back up.

Curtis:

What happens when you bring your black friend home for Christmas?

Raylene:

Thanks for coming on our show peps. It was nice to meet you. Man this was I hope so too. That was a lot of fun. And I'm always super happy to meet hanging out with you guys. It's

Bradford :

so much fun. So if you'd like to support undebatable on our Patreon page, we would totally appreciate it Curtis is gonna do another photo this time without the shirt at all completely shirtless. He's gonna post it for all of you who will get the

Raylene:

back view too. Wow. Yeah, sorry. I'm seeing you walk away.

Bradford :

We're calling it we're calling it undebatable bridgerton hybrid.

Unknown:

Sorry, I'm a bug girl. Did you did say that? One time

Host:

to see you go but I love to watch you leave. Rockaway I was. I was so innocent. I was like, 18 at the time. I'm like, what does that mean?

Unknown:

Like do you have a nice ass? Now I gotta say,

Curtis:

as always, I love you guys. All it's always a pleasure and you're not a racist. No, I know. I'm not called implicit bias.

Raylene:

I did that. I would agree to like, I cannot help how I was raised. I'm working very hard to overcome it.

Curtis:

Sometimes we agree. Sometimes we disagree shop instacart can you

Unknown:

to hug? Can you to hug Oh, wait, here we go. Oh, see their friend.

Curtis:

This was not COVID friendly. It's okay.

Bradford :

You got a mask on her chin.

Raylene:

I have antibodies. Perfect. There you go.

Curtis:

I'll see you guys next week. Bye,

Unknown:

guys. Thank you. Everybody. Say bye bye.

Keith:

You've been listening to undebatable. Finally a show proving that people can disagree and still have fun, like it ought to be. We hope you had fun too. And we'll be back soon. Until then join in the conversation with us on our website at www dot undebatable dot show or connect with us on social media, Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube. We'll see you next time. Until then. This is undebatable signing off.

Shawn Guiney

Guest

Shawn Guiney is a fitness and nutrition expert that teaches systems so that his clients can look good and feel great every day. He helps high-performing professionals take better control of their health so they can focus on their work and family life. He has been in the industry for 12 years and currently works out of his facility in Lebanon CT, or virtually. He believes fitness and nutrition should be simple, but no simpler.