Feb. 24, 2021

Goodbye & Good Riddance

Goodbye & Good Riddance

We are so excited to bring you another hilarious and exciting episode of Undebatable. In this episode, we touch on hot topics from the last two weeks since we had a mini break last week. Join us as we discuss the passing of Rush Limbaugh, explorer the engine fire from this weeks United flight sending debris falling from the sky onto the small Colorado town below. We also dive into the details of a new law in Indiana, allowing residence to purchase a gun without needing a permit. Lastly we also talk about how a small city in Mississippi called: Mississippi City, that is paying people to move there! Our guest this week is Miriam Messer, who is a Personal Concierge and Organizational Specialist. She provides an insight into her work and provides some tips for listeners.

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Transcript

Keith:

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Steve:

I couldn't make it through.

Unknown:

I was a little delayed. I'm sorry. It's okay.

Steve:

You didn't know that is that is not Curtis. By the way. We have a guest filling in for Curtis He is the male version of Carmen San Diego. If you didn't know. She is somewhere out there in the world. Dana, would you like to introduce yourself?

Unknown:

I'm sure I'm Dana Taotao. I am not as attractive or have a good is a voice is Curtis.

Steve:

Well, I look at him every episode, so he's quite attractive be the judge.

Unknown:

It really is.

Steve:

Did you bring your crown? down? Am

Unknown:

I supposed to?

Steve:

Is this Curtis what uh, well, let me get to the business real quick. Remember, remember, remember, please share our podcast, you be sure to share the undebatable podcast with your friends, your family. Even the crazy weird dude at the gas station. If you have to. We don't care. We just want the downloads. Just tell everyone to listen to it. Also, be sure to connect with us. Let us know your thoughts on this week's hot topics. You can weigh in on the conversation at undebatable dot show that is the website to make it even easier. We included a link right down in the bottom of the show notes. And lastly, please support our podcast become a member of the undebatable Patreon page, where we will have an all access exclusive look behind the scenes, views, extras, videos, photos, a discounted merge, and so much more. The link for our show Patreon page can also be found down in the show notes. I felt like I did the all in one breath. Wow, that's really good. That was not a phrase that is horrible. You're supposed to pace it out.

Raylene:

I know but you're

Unknown:

passionate. Man. You mean getting

Steve:

you know I said today you're not talking shit if it's true.

Raylene:

I said since the beginning you have a dad bod. There's nothing wrong with that.

Unknown:

Didn't you guys talk to someone that you care that they're fat?

Raylene:

Yes. He wanted to know if his girlfriend would tell him he's fat. So I told him this

Steve:

until she says

Raylene:

I think you look fine.

Steve:

Speaking of love. Valentine's Day is the most recent thing that we've had happened to us. So did you guys have a good one? bad one? Yes. Dana. Are you with somebody? Or no?

Unknown:

Oh, I'm recently single.

Steve:

Okay, so you get this we get it from the single. Well, what did you do as a single person? What did you do? Are you recent? Like a week or two? Oh, this

Raylene:

seems pretty recent. How

Unknown:

close to Valentine's Day was it? Like a week and a half? It was my first Valentine's Day being single and yours How

Steve:

much money did you say this year?

Unknown:

We weren't really like Valentine's Day like 2000? No. No, not a lot. I actually had a bunch of my friends over for brunch. So I didn't fucking save any money. I spent a shit ton of money because I wanted to cook for people. So

Raylene:

I didn't get the invite. Sorry. It's

Unknown:

because we're, you know, yeah, quote unquote, friends, right? Friends? Yeah, don't quote friends.

Steve:

middle name then you are truly friends with them. Oh, I'm actually as I said that. I'm jet running through my friends. So I will call him like, I don't know their middle names.

Unknown:

Marie. Oh, close. Marian, Marian.

Steve:

You got the you got the M part.

Raylene:

Oh, what about me?

Bradford :

Guess. Okay.

Unknown:

See,

Raylene:

reading your energy. And so close. It's Moray What the fuck?

Steve:

Every girl is Maria Lin. like pretty much always

Raylene:

at my age. Yeah,

Steve:

everybody. Do your hand guessing tactic to me. Will it work? No. I knew you wouldn't get it's really complicated.

Unknown:

I'm gonna say it's Martin. But I don't.

Steve:

Martin it is the exotic name of john. Oh, no. Yes. With an H by the way. Wow. Yeah. Interesting. Wait, no one is impressed. What's Bradford's? Oh,

Unknown:

go ahead.

Raylene:

Nope. That's the Carlos.

Steve:

I guess to Andrew. Nope. You look like an Andrew

Unknown:

Harlan.

Bradford :

It's Daniel recently. Let me explain. Recently.

Steve:

negotiation option did I miss like

Raylene:

what's the original one James? All right.

Unknown:

So one forgot the new one. What is it Daniel Okay, just

Raylene:

changed it because his initials are BJ.

Bradford :

One of the biggest. One of the biggest things that I regret I guess would be that I never told my mom over I feel like I'm protecting her. So she has a brother whose name is James, Jimmy, whatever. All families have one of them. And that's an alcoholic. They're

Steve:

always named James though,

Bradford :

right? Yeah. So this uncle of mine who's an alcoholic, just I don't want to be named after that. I just don't I'm sorry. So I was a triplet, the third one, his name was going to be Daniel. So I figured instead of being named after an alcoholic Uncle, I would name my middle name after my brother. So I actually went to the probate court did a legal name change and got it legally changed to Daniel.

Raylene:

That is so cool. No way so

Steve:

very sweet story, but I was missing out on the odds. I feel left out.

Unknown:

Oh, there we go. don't hear a lot of people being triplets. Like, you might be the only one that I've ever met. No, no, true, sir.

Raylene:

I need two twins. I know two identical twins who were born two months apart. Yeah, try to explain now on and in different years, but the mom had given birth to the first one. And they were able to keep the second one in the womb because she was not ready. Neither one of them were ready. So for the first one was in the ICU for two months, and then the other one stayed in utero. And then they had two different birthdays in two different years. But they were identical. So are they Well, I guess they could have been identical because when they both have been in this in the same rack, you

Unknown:

know what I'm just thinking I'm just thinking about when they leave like sponges after surgery, and it gets like that's what I'm thinking about, like this baby in the womb just a massive In fact, I'm

Raylene:

just thinking right now that they they could not have been identical twins because they would have been in the same sack.

Steve:

This is the greatest situation for any to any twin, right? And this is big. They have their own birthdays, right? How lucky are they?

Raylene:

Yeah, but they did. They looked very much like so. But obviously they could not have been identical. Now that I'm thinking about that.

Steve:

Well, we have a good show lined up. Some of the topics coming up. We got rush limbaugh recently died. I don't know what exact day but he died at 70. Over the past couple days. We're gonna discuss that. an airliner had an engine explode, and its engine parts rained terror down on a small town in Denver, and in the Indiana House of Representatives band needing a gun license to purchase a handgun and Mississippi city. That sounds cool to say wants to pay you $6,000 to move there. But there is a catch of course.

Raylene:

Yeah, it's Mississippi.

Unknown:

Is it? Wait, is it in Mississippi?

Steve:

Ah, you never know because there's like Kansas City and it's in Kansas, Missouri. Kansas City and Missouri. Right. South of the Mason Dixon line. I don't get down there very often they do.

Raylene:

Now cousins this this we just lost all of our listeners south of the Mason Dixon Good job, guys.

Steve:

I mean, that's how they talk for I've never been down there. Remember? That's what I said. I went to Tennessee which technique was in the north during the Civil War? So I think they're not part of the South.

Raylene:

Oh, well, just technically, they are. So if

Steve:

you ask the guy who flew confederate flag of his truck is Tennessee part of the South you'd be like hell no, now we just lost over southern

Raylene:

Tennessee is the state that has the most bordering states random trivia, wow,

Steve:

if only I was still in high school, it's got

Raylene:

like seven or eight states that border it

Steve:

when rush limbaugh died, I realized something

Raylene:

you don't care about a lot of shit.

Steve:

That there's a few things that everybody has an opinion on. And he is one of them. So I thought it was a great opportunity to have our opinion said what you feel but where I feel it's kind of an interesting thing, at least for me is that there is the man and there's a career. So whatever you feel about the person where he reached in his career, I'm in radio, this guy is at the top of the friggin mountain top right, the absolute top there's nobody else but the way he did it. Some people don't agree with and some people do. So I'm a little interested in how you all feel about whether you give a shit about his career or not. Also, a lot of people are like dancing in the streets when the guy died. And that's, you know, celebrating someone's death is also a little bit of a sketchy thing too. But I'm pretty sure we ran through the tapes. He's probably celebrated someone's death along the way. So I just want I'm curious how you guys feel just overall,

Raylene:

I would say, honestly, dancing in the streets over somebody's death should be saved for like a current dictator, where now shit can change. He's been out of radio for a while because he's been sick. He doesn't still have it

Steve:

shows up to the end.

Unknown:

So my dad's a big rush limbaugh fan like nostalgia. I remember driving to preschool and he was listening to rush limbaugh and my dad was saying that he had been on the radio for like a week and a half up until his Yeah, okay, passing

Raylene:

But either way, I think dancing in the streets should be saved for a dictator who is you know, whatever, not a guy who happens to own some opinions. Do I like him? Not particularly. Did I agree with him? Not particularly. I did see somebody the other day posted that their dad was a perfectly well rounded person till he started listening to wrestling bot and then he became a raging bigot and I was like, No, your dad was just quiet until he heard Rush Limbaugh is unless your dad was a 14 year old boy, rush limbaugh did not change his opinion of anything and just gave him permission to share it.

Bradford :

So I, you know, you all probably remember this and I think I even said on a previous episode Trump when he was our president had gotten COVID. And I said, I hope he doesn't die. Do I like Trump? Absolutely not. Do I agree with any of his politics? Almost Absolutely not. But what I want him to die from COVID? No, and it's the same thing here. Do I agree with rush limbaugh or anything? He said ever? No, but I don't think that we should celebrate someone's death in that in that way. It's just not it's not appropriate. He would you do respect the way he got to where he is? is so 10 point 5 million listeners a week? Here's my answer to that. I'm not completely sure how he got to where he is. So I don't have an opinion. Okay, I can't I'll cover it.

Steve:

I'll cover it. And I won't hear from Dana though.

Unknown:

Well, I think I mean, again, I remember growing up and listening to his ideology, and I can't say necessarily agree or disagree with it. But I think he's a prime example of how there's some someone for everyone, you know, like, there's always gonna be people that agree with your mindset and your viewpoint, and there's always going to be people that disagree, but I agree with Bradford it's not you know, death is not a good thing to celebrate. Right?

Steve:

What about the things you said though, cuz I mean, like, obviously, we don't want to celebrate his death. But in life, he was a pretty shitty dude for the things you said what Dana's point is to Dana's point though he has 15 point 5 million people listening every day every week who agree with every every single thing he says. So

Raylene:

now some of them are just listening. So we'll see what kind of asshole shitty saying

Unknown:

our right you know, when you're giving

Raylene:

Well, that's what I tell everybody. Same thing with boycotts. Every single time you post a boycott, you're literally sharing the information that you wish people wouldn't share. And people argue with me all the time. And I'm like, Don't fucking share this shitty thing that somebody said, because you're giving them free airtime.

Steve:

So rush, he started in local, his whole family were republican politicians, judges, local politicians. He started at a radio station in like the 70s that his dad owned, got a gig there. He started doing all local stuff started getting a little bit more hype. He got went out to Sacramento, California got going once George Bush Senior, he said, we need to have voices on the opposite side. Like we need more discourse, right what he asked for, and boy, did he get it and Russia ran with it. Yeah. And he changed Republican politics. If you want to be somebody, he's taking people who are nobodies and taking them to the absolute mountaintop with him. He has almond radio. So I want to clarify something. Rush Limbaugh is at the top five of my list of people I fucking hate more than

Raylene:

anybody else. I'm not surprised.

Steve:

And when he died, I started to do the year and I went that someone's dead man, right? You know, that's someone's, I'm not gonna celebrate his death. Am I happy? He's not talking into a microphone minus him dying from lung cancer. 100%. But from a career perspective, this guy May I mean, he made it to the absolute top and for me, I'm so torn because I want to respect the man because he's a shock jock. And I was reading interviews from him today. And he was like, I've never said anything that I didn't believe I was given a platform to be honest. Now let's think of all the things he said you can look it up for days, all the great stuff he said he loves to attack all the minorities, black people white, not white people, white women, gay people, right? Don Imus is a legend. I'll try to explain it to someone like oh, Russia, isn't it? I said Russia is bigger than everybody else. And I hate him remember, right? He's bigger than everybody ever. Don Imus is a God of radio. He I think he said into a microphone. He is absolutely insane story. He said into a microphone one day Nappy Headed hos and his career was fucking over. Don Imus slipped once and said one offensive thing and his career was over rush limbaugh did it on a daily basis and I still made it to the top so

Unknown:

is his career over.

Steve:

We had a conversation. I had a conversation with me today where I realized the word isn't respect. It's acknowledged and once I realized that word it made me understand my emotions because I I'm not happy he's dead, but I'm glad he can't keep spewing All right, bullshit, but I respect I gotta respect someone making it to the absolute top of their career. And so I acknowledge

Raylene:

what about larry king? Why didn't he just die recently?

Steve:

Well for radio Russia has 15 point 5 million weekly listeners that's your everyday bro now he's got no buddies. Nobody even comes

Unknown:

close. But that's even an interesting ideas like where are those listeners gonna go? There's

Steve:

a vacuum now. No, so

Raylene:

they're conservative. It sucks to begin with.

Steve:

conservative radio is a powerful beast. It has a lot. You don't see it from the democratic side because there's not that kind of passion and it's scattered, right even in conservative radio, it's rush limbaugh and then everybody else so he started knew that there wasn't social media today sean hannity Let's get him on. He He created in a sense Fox News roger ailes was the guy who produced his show the PR back in the day and then Roger airs well went and helped write great Fox News the rush limbaugh is what crew came of the guy influence everything. I find out my guys in the world, but I acknowledge I don't respect right now. They did because they did it great.

Raylene:

Yeah, I mean, talk radio wasn't even a thing really. Until rush limbaugh made it a thing.

Steve:

I think 100% it existed but they didn't have Yeah, if he went Raylene should win the republican senate seat in Georgia. You are now the most popular person in republican history in Georgia just just like that.

Unknown:

He was like you know the 1990s influencer

Steve:

Yeah. And that I read though in the article he literally said that line it said before influencers rush limbaugh, and I feel uncomfortable talking about him right right now,

Raylene:

just like if he said by my pillow you bought on my pillow,

Steve:

so we can still hate the absolute piece of shit garbage man he is but we also have to remember 15 point 5 million people listen to him every single day and agree with everything he says. And they're not wrong either. Well, I'm

Unknown:

not wrong to you.

Raylene:

They can be wrong.

Steve:

Wrong. 45 million people that agree with what he says they're there.

Raylene:

They agree with them. That doesn't mean they're not wrong. And this is coming from the Republican in the room.

Unknown:

But I think that's a prime example of like, why cults can happen, right? Oh, absolutely. Like they're there. Again. There's some there's something and someone for everyone. And

Raylene:

you know, he was too far too far too right. Now, I will say, well, let's bring this question. And you said something on the radio, you know, 1520 years ago, but over time you evolved as a human Do you still have that held against you for the rest of your life?

Steve:

It really I mean, if I was if I was like embalm and Mona, I mean that that is the context of that you can't come back from I look at it as it depends, like you see all these blackface pictures coming out right? Now we see it. It's hard to see things from 10 years ago, because you can't rewire your brain. So when you see these pictures, you're like, Whoa, what the fuck? But in 1992 it wasn't. That was okay. It doesn't mean it's okay today. Great. So the

Raylene:

Muppets are under attack, baby.

Steve:

It's cold outside, right? That 1950s Yeah. And honestly, he's not talking about I'm gonna kidnap you and DOS, but it's a 19th.

Unknown:

I hate that

Steve:

I hated that cancel and it's it. That's what blows my mind. I'd have to understand the context. You don't have to keep celebrating it today. You want to stop playing it. Okay, but don't be freaking out.

Raylene:

But did you hear the Muppets are under attack? Are they under attack or what? They Disney plus has put a warning on on the label that some of the views like et cetera, Disney plus put a warning out on Laura Ingalls Wilder is under attack because of the way she talked about Indians and her book that was written in 1890.

Steve:

I was watching Rugrats the other night. Yes. I'm 36 years old. Yeah. So watch. And Chucky was wearing a dress and these older kids are trying to like bully him. They pushed him down. They're like, they scarf his dress to go. He's wearing blue underwear. He can't be a girl. And then they stood up and they started throwing things at him and said boys don't wear dresses and we're throwing candy at him. Yeah, and then again, wrapping it up as his boys don't wear dresses and they can't wear pink. It's like the 90s if that came out today, yeah, someone Yeah, saw this episode. There may be a warning on that, but I watched that one. Oh my god. I went Oh yeah, this is like 1996 but that's what people always forget to remind themselves of the year that stuff happened.

Raylene:

Oh, and Dr. Seuss is apparently racist. A lot of shit coming out right now a

Steve:

lot of stuff. Have you do you guys feel safe flying like pre COVID? Would you get nervous flying on an airplane?

Raylene:

I don't get nervous flying even with COVID Yes, flying

Steve:

to two knows in one year hate flying.

Raylene:

I don't mind at all. Well,

Steve:

let me tell you a story that make you feel better. United Airlines had a flight from Denver on its way to Honolulu. Right after takeoff. One of the engines exploded. I've seen the video is insane. I always want the window seat. That's a fucking day. You do not want the window. See? What do you even do? Excuse me? The engine is loaded and it's on fire. But what we forget is that airliners take off over towns and cities. So there's a small town broom town right outside Denver. These? Yeah, it is I guess I can just switch it up. They had no the pieces I've seen like if you picture a jet engine, it is the size of that and this guy right in front of this guy's friggin front door. So the irony I find is that the TSA needs to investigate obviously, right? So they're asking you not that don't touch it until move it whatever. I don't know. an acronym for someone who investigates f crashes

Unknown:

and to me

Steve:

I find it very ironic

Raylene:

to say can't find my my backpacks or not find your

Steve:

same organization that wants to charge you like an extra Dollar or $25 because your backpacks too big yet could you leave that giant piece of engine in your front yard for like three weeks while we investigate? And please don't touch it or move it

Unknown:

to the front door? I'm just curious if it's like if insurance policies are written to cover shit like this, or if there's like these you know, exclusion that's

Steve:

no I'm curious about a house who pays for that?

Raylene:

Well, your insurance will pay for it. But then they'll see the friggin airliner. No, no, so they'll subrogate Yeah, they'll they'll push it on to the other people but

Steve:

but we also saw what the seven just you

Raylene:

know, spoiler alert. Everybody got back to the airport safely?

Unknown:

Yes. No one died.

Raylene:

Nobody died no injury. It didn't land none of the pieces landed on anybody. What

Steve:

do you have that the 737 all those planes crashing and then it taking that whole investigation and realize like, oh, the rich guys knew the whole time we didn't give a shit. So between that and then how does like an engine just randomly exploded? Like do you guys feel safe?

Raylene:

Somebody probably left a look back.

Bradford :

What was it two or three years ago? Right? Southwest Airlines had an engine explode and that one was deadly. Because it threw a piece of metal through the window with purely and sucked a passenger out. Holy

Steve:

fuck. That's like real world.

Raylene:

The universe says you motherfucker You're coming with me

Unknown:

it's hard Are you all the way up goodbye. You served your purpose

Raylene:

up I don't know how you missed the traffic accident disease that I gave you the knife that I dropped on your head but you're going

Steve:

I don't know I said this year, but there is nothing and I mean this there's nothing more I feel more 100% about that. If I'm in a plane crash. I'm gonna survive. Oh, hey. And it's not like Oh, if I say this, the universe No. Like I like I was fucking born with this thought. Like, I was like, that's how 100% convinced I am. First I was afraid and I say I will be. But if I am in one, I will. I'll be in that section that you'll cranked. Yeah. Fire didn't hit me.

Bradford :

I will live as long as we don't go into water because I stink.

Raylene:

They have a flotation device. He attacks No, no,

Bradford :

let me explain. So in the Coast Guard, we have to do egress training, which is when

Raylene:

Wait Wait, you're free to water and you're in the Coast Guard.

Bradford :

Hold on. I'm afraid of water when I'm panicked. And I'm strapped

Raylene:

I mean like everybody will What does it mean to be straddle

Bradford :

like let's say that you're in a in a seat with a seatbelt right so in the Coast Guard because of being in helicopters, they they are you discussing confidential information? Oh, okay. They put you in a pool with a seatbelt Oh, and then they take the seat and they flip it upside down and they put you under the water and you have to get out you have to undo your seatbelt and then push through the glass and then come up as if your helicopter had landed in the water and it's never gone well for me

Steve:

Well, I now see why you're probably not flying helicopter one of the probably 750 reasons why you're not flying

Raylene:

well i think he meant as a passenger to helicopter

Bradford :

as a medic working in the back of a helicopter if it goes down I have to get out

Steve:

well the theory is is like hey

Raylene:

you know what Bradford Let me help you out with this if you feel the helicopter going down under your safety belt.

Unknown:

I feel like flying is one of those perfect examples of like it's so much out of your control that that's where the anxiety is but I remember someone saying to me once that like if the flight attendants are calm you should be calm so

Raylene:

they're trained to be calm but

Unknown:

that's what but it but they also know how bad right can things can go

Steve:

sorry what you just said I feel like it's like the opposite. So like you said like that crazy anxiety once we're up beyond I can jump and be safe I'm like, out of my control, right like that guy up there is gonna die equally as quickly as I do. And the guy flying is the most trained person in the whole frickin blame. So we're you're in the best possible situation on an airplane when it takes off.

Raylene:

I Well first of all, we know that most airlines airplanes either crash on takeoff or landing so that's statistically true when an airplane takes off and I'm in it I sing Jesus loves me I do it every single time out loud. Well like I mostly do it kind of to myself but like enough like if you're close to me you might hear it but I figure because like I don't ever use biblical or whatever on it but when I figure like I don't want to be caught unawares when I die because I'm a sinner like I know I'm a sinner right so I want to make sure that if this plane blows up on the way into the sky or crashes I want God to know that I was alive he was last thing I was thinking of so then I guess

Steve:

that'll that'll wipe away it well. I thought about you know, that's how it goes like you weren't when you were stealing and Robin I don't

Raylene:

steal and Rob I just um you know, I talked about

Steve:

Raylene? Yes I am you sell the devil's toys.

Raylene:

Those are God's toy. Yeah,

Unknown:

those are God's toy. Closer to heaven than they've ever been. Exactly.

Raylene:

There's not a whole lot Sorry, dude. I bet my toys have caused more. Oh god, oh god oh god moments you've ever.

Steve:

So this is not a gun, a gun debate but I'm using it to ask you guys a question so just so you know the Indiana House of Representatives banned the need for a license of guns to buy a handgun, you don't need a license, you can just just go buy one. So when I started on my What?

Raylene:

gun license or driver's license, a gun

Steve:

license, okay, you don't need to buy a hand. So I'm started reading this, I'm like, What do you got? What do you guys cuz I'm like I like I like gun regulation. So I start reading this and I'm like, start reading the argument. So they don't want anyone to have to pay for the licenses, the licenses are bringing $5 million to the state which pays for police training all the fees that they have. So the police for two purposes are against this, right, they're losing $5 million for training, the taxpayers have to pay for it. Now. Also, a bunch of more people can have guns, you really don't have to check for them. So I'm reading this and I'm like, freaking out like, yeah, this is bullshit. And then I heard the counter argument. And it went, well, I love counter having a gun is your second amendment right? And you have that right to have a license. We're making you pay to exercise your right

Raylene:

You mean like voting.

Steve:

And so that is actually a counter argument to what I just brought up. And now someone was like, that was the good argument. So Wow, what a great point. But you don't have to pay to register to vote. Now. so in this situation, you have to pay to exercise your constitutional right. So I was against this. And I'm still hope they didn't ban this, but the argument is so fucking so rock solid in the pay for constitutional right that so I want to just debate it, you

Bradford :

have to pay to build to drive your vehicle, which is a freedom, right?

Steve:

freedom of movement is not free to have a movement in your vehicle. See, that's where it starts. That's why this is a really good right thing like me, and my co hosts were just throwing this around. It's like, holy shit, you can literally argue in a circle because both sides have such great sound arguments. So I'm really wondering, are you guys willing to give up parts of your constitutional rights and exchange for public safety?

Raylene:

No, I've never, I've never been pro that ever, and I never will be. And I do think that you should have some sort of legal ID to be able to get a voter voter registration card. And everybody says, well, then you're just, you know, penalizing those people who can't afford 90 look at them for free and give them free idea. But you need to have a birth certificate, and you need to have some proof that you are who you are and where you are. And we refuse to do that in the United States. And then we get upset about the elections.

Unknown:

I will say I I'm a I'm a card carrying concealed permit person, I want one so that and

Steve:

I Indiana,

Unknown:

I have never felt like having to get that was like an infringement on my constitutional rights. What I will say is I used to be with someone from who had a gun hobby and collected them and purchase them and it was a hobby for him. And living in that house. It was always important for me to know how to use them. Yeah. And so that's where the license component i think comes in for me is like is the education component, same thing with a driver's license, the education associated with obtaining that license, but I have never personally felt that my constitutional rights are being infringed upon

Raylene:

so solution, you have to bring your proof that you've taken the safety class and the license is free.

Steve:

So the whole point of them doing this bill is the quote of it was that law abiding citizens who have never done anything wrong should not be jumped through hoops to get a quote when they have to jump through hoops they do to get this permit so even to that point, it's like well having to go to class on a Saturday maybe someone consider that's jumping through a hoop when I have the freedom of speech I don't have to go take a class for freedom of speech right? So that's where this is

Unknown:

gonna kill somebody a gun.

Raylene:

Are you kidding me? He can't go I'm sorry. Did did we not just try to impeach Trump because his speech killed people okay,

Unknown:

what Okay, he

Steve:

said peaceful ones out of the 400 times you said go okay,

Raylene:

but you literally just said speech doesn't kill

Bradford :

to Shea you got me there.

Raylene:

I'm just trying to I'm just there's I do think there'll be some sort of safety but also like if you were raised with guns, and you're on a farm and you use guns all the time, and it's just part of your culture. That's great. I have not been raised with guns. I did do a gun class once in Vegas. It was on a gun class so it was like you can go in and just shoot a weapon. Awesome. I fucking got a talk I got a bull's eye my very first shot and I said to my husband This is why I don't have a gun because I'm a good shot with a bad temper. Oh, but do I need a class of course I need a class before somebody gives me a gun

Steve:

but it's it's that it's that

Raylene:

but the licensing thing the list I don't

Steve:

want to be on a Lenovo I'm talking about the list of constitutional rights and what they're hard to fuckin argue against.

Raylene:

A really are the right to bear What is this this

Steve:

still needs to go into

Raylene:

jeopardy last night but own and bear on bear and something arms its forwards before arms.

Steve:

Al Gore from xlp would argue that it's actually arms from a bear that we The South Park has some of the greatest political satire.

Unknown:

It will be interesting to see how how this if it goes all the way

Steve:

so they pass it in the house on Monday, it's on the way to senate but the past at 65 to 31. So it's significantly on both sides at agreed with this.

Unknown:

I just think it'll be interesting to see the statistics, if it goes all the way, you know, in terms of gun violence and safety. Yeah, that's the

Steve:

state police of all people are like the number one people against the $5 million is to $5 million of taxpayers have to pay for the police training now. And more people have gotten really quick. I there wasn't any information article. I was it. I was curious about what about if I just could I just drive to Indiana, like me as a US citizen? Or is this for us citizens, but also residents of Indiana? Well,

Unknown:

I also wonder if if the removal of the license removes like the background check company.

Steve:

So that's an interesting part of it is that it's up to now the Police Bureau and the DMV to create some form of system to figure out who's eligible for a gun. So Exactly. It's like if you walked into the DMV to go get your license, as long as you had the right things to prove that you're good to get your license, they just take you for a class and you take your test, you take the picture you ever licensed. So it'll be interesting, but yeah, the state police are but the very good

Raylene:

thing is the the criminals are not going to be legal gun owners ever.

Steve:

No, that's

Raylene:

always attacking the people who are trying to do things legally.

Steve:

And just like the war on drugs and drugs isn't gonna go anywhere either. It's it's one of those things that will just always the criminals won't be there. But I was I'm still wish they wouldn't do this. But I can't argue against I really can't like you win with the you can't you shouldn't have an radio, it's against the FCC rules and regulations to have someone pay to enter a contest like wailoa we could go to prison for it. There's lots of examples throughout time why those are laws now.

Raylene:

And if your family members of the radio station contest,

Steve:

so if all those rules are involved in frickin radio contest, then like your constitutional right should be like this for and formal. You shouldn't have to pay to practice that. And we always argue, hey, poor kids can't get this and poor people can't get that. Well, what if I'm a poor guy, and I want to actually say I exercise my constitutional right. And I have been gifted a gun. Hold on.

Bradford :

Oh, yeah, I was just because how can you afford a gun? If you're I realized

Steve:

they argument against my

Raylene:

tattoos all the fucking time. It's called prison.

Steve:

I sounded way worse than was intended.

Raylene:

And that's why this show was amazing.

Steve:

Well, if you're like me, and you need to move out of your city as fast as possible for stupid things. You said Mississippi city that wants to pay you $6,000 to move there. They really want remote workers. So they realize and a lot of places I've done, I've seen islands do it. They realize, hey, people don't have to go to work anymore. Some businesses are just like, we're done. You just work from home forever. Why don't you move to a nice place? Why not Mississippi city, they'll pay you $6,000. Here's the catch where it makes it all pointless. They will give you an upfront one time payment of 20 $500. And from that point on a $300 stipend for the entire year, which will bounce back out to that $6,000 you also need to guarantee you'll stay there for a year and purchase a home of $150,000 or more.

Unknown:

I bet I mean, and again is Mississippi city in Mississippi, right? That's question number one.

Raylene:

My question is How big is $150,000? house? That's a fucking mansion.

Steve:

It's the size of $150,000. Check. That's what size it is for 60 grand you may pay 150 grand for a grand back

Raylene:

I keep getting this deal. Is this $30,000 houses? I mean, I think $150,000 house in Mississippi is close to like us invest 1.5 million in Connecticut.

Unknown:

Well, what's what's the reason? Are they just trying to increase their population?

Raylene:

For the air and then they shop from the stores and they

Bradford :

support the local economy? Yeah, make them a little bit smarter. They're the second lowest educated state in United States. That's true statistic.

Raylene:

I'm not being rude. No, it's fine. Well, what stats are stats, that's

Unknown:

your stats.

Raylene:

And I'm in it. I mean, I've met lovely people from Mississippi and I don't want to insult the entire state or the entire South. Although we'd love to do that. For some we didn't write

Steve:

their history. Yeah, they're in the books.

Raylene:

I just I feel like that's kind of fair. Like especially if you don't have a lot of fit. If you're not stuck to an area for family Do you know hard to just buy a house right now in Connecticut? Oh, I know. They're like 30 you're getting like 30 people who are who are putting bids on shit houses and good because everybody and they're selling for overvalue because all the people are moving out of the cities now because they don't have to be there for their jobs. And

Steve:

one of their angles. Yeah, we're a small town. city but like there that's a tiny fuck can carry

Raylene:

and you can sell $150,000 house next year after you got your

Steve:

grant, you give me 20 501 time payment, I can't even pay for the damn guy to come check my house for 20 520 $500

Raylene:

you make sure you have decent Wi Fi.

Unknown:

I wouldn't even cover like a down payment on an FHA loan. Right, you know? Well, I mean, I also I feel like they're going this is gonna backfire that they're enticing and attracting the people who may not be

Steve:

people can't pay for their homes, they have a larger issue. Right? Right.

Unknown:

That's where my mind is going.

Raylene:

Oh, one thing and they're trying to pull some new york city people out some Dallas people, some people who just they don't even give you the six grand up front to put down for the house. Why would you do that? You get bail

Unknown:

150 out what's the contingency fee? $1,000

Raylene:

is nothing I

Steve:

don't know the legal details but part of the stipulations that you have to stay for at least a year.

Raylene:

I'm just saying $150,000 is nothing for a house. Not true. I mean, where we are in New England $150,000 house is a like no basement built on a slab you know, tiny Ranch, right?

Bradford :

No property is the hardest word for me to spell. I know just imagine if I had to like write that on envelopes. I wouldn't send anything anymore. I would just be like don't

Raylene:

you don't write Ms. Ms. City?

Steve:

What if you're like, what if you're the Mississippi City Mayor you have to write that out from the awesome Missouri from the desk. City

Bradford :

city man this is the city Mississippi sit down to have to write it out.

Unknown:

Okay, you know,

Steve:

I got your back. Thank you. It's

Bradford :

a city not a state. You have to write it out.

Unknown:

What do you don't

Raylene:

know you don't know. You know, I'm sorry. I'm worried. I haven't. I have not Lisbon but if you live in Minneapolis, you basically do m n p l s heif comma m whatever Minnesota is. No, no, no, it's it's standard. There's shortcut. Oh, live there? No, no, no. In the US Postal Service. You can shortcut a lot of major cities like do people do ny ny? Yes. And and it follows by this about you? I'm sorry. I have been a database manager for I know.

Steve:

That was the one that ruined your argument. The ny ny was the one that ends your argument. I know. He was I was I was about to bring it up and be like, Oh, I'm not gonna use that that ruins the whole argument. Of course everyone does ny

Raylene:

not all four major cities. They also have their own disk, their own shortened shorthand to go on the letters.

Steve:

Well, on that note, we are going to take a quick commercial break, and we'll be back with our guests. Miriam Messer. She is a professional organizer and consigliere with serenity concierge solutions. I'm excited. I want one of those two glasses of wine are hitting but I came back strong. We'll be back as well in 60 seconds.

Raylene:

Curtis, where were you? I thought you were gonna miss the podcast.

Unknown:

I was grocery shopping and it was rough. I had to run all over town to get everything on my list and I got elbow dropped by a little old lady over a pack of toilet paper. I don't see what's so great about shopping. It's a pain.

Raylene:

That's because you're doing it wrong. I did all my shopping while we were on the last commercial break and most of it will be here by the time the show was over. See what how did you manage that?

Unknown:

Did you get yourself a personal shopper?

Raylene:

Nope. Even better. instacart instead of having to play separate orders at every store. I can place one order for all my favorites from a variety of local grocery stores on instacart and they'll be delivered to my doorstep in it's fast as an hour. They even let you know when your favorite items go on sale. Sweet.

Unknown:

How can I get in on this? Just click the

Raylene:

link in the show notes that will let instacart know that we sent you and it'll help support our show. Not only that our listeners get free delivery on their first order over $35 so it's a win win for

Unknown:

everyone heading over there now instacart saving you time and money. Now that's undebatable

Keith:

you're listening to undebatable here's Raylene Curtis, Steve and Bradford.

Steve:

We are back with our special guests, the Miriam Messer. Miriam is a professional organizer and concierge at the serenity concierge solutions. As a professional organizer, Miriam uses mindful techniques and LP and behavior modifications to help clients process their attachment to clutter. I have that problem. My car is full of shit right now. As a concierge. She also helps people organize the productivity of projects, tasks and events in business since 2008. her greatest joy is helping her clients create a safe and serene space for more mindful and peaceful living. Welcome to the undebatable podcast Miriam Messer. Miriam Are you able to organize scattered brains because we could definitely use you here?

Unknown:

I could pay for that. I can definitely give it a try. Yes,

Steve:

I am I What? What kind of like just give us a quick little cover of what guys You into doing this what made you start it? This little quick description of what got you into being a organizer and cons here? Oh, well, you

Unknown:

know, bad habits are generally learned from our parents. My, my father, unfortunately was a bit of a hoarder and a packrat. And that just infuriated me all my life. And I just went the opposite direction, I tried to clean up after him my whole life until I just decided to move out, I wasn't gonna deal with it anymore.

Steve:

So I will give you two, I live in a small apartment of a small car. Both things are overfilled. Because I literally have too many things. At least in my room, I've gotten to the point where I'm like, I don't have anywhere to put this. So I have a mental excuse to let this just go wild. For me with that daunting pile, how would I just start to organize like to go over it to get over that? What seems like an impossible task trash bag.

Unknown:

One of the first things I recommend is just, you know, the low hanging fruit, get out of your house, anything that you absolutely, positively know you don't need, and serves no purpose for you get that out of the house right away. And that will actually set the stage for making decisions, the harder decisions going forward. So you mentioned mindfulness techniques and behavior modification. How often are you running into it where like someone needs mental health help before you can help them? It doesn't happen as often as you think. Usually, it does happen with hoarders. And when I start working with a hoarder, it's because I've been referred to them most likely by a psychologist. But when they're already reaching out to me for help, they know that they need to make a change in their life. And so they're more apt to make the necessary changes.

Raylene:

So when the Marie Kondo special came out two years ago, so two years ago, one year ago, did that spur a bunch of people calling you and me like, Ah, yeah, help me decide what sparks joy.

Unknown:

It didn't it didn't. It motivated people to take the necessary steps, they needed to do it themselves, following the Marie Kondo plan, but every organizer has their own technique. Marie Kondo is a bit of a minimalist hands too, she makes sure that everything you have in your home is absolutely positively necessary. That's not always a practical way to work. I've worked with artists, entertainers, performers, and the stuff they surround themselves with are stuff that inspires them to create more. So you want to be able to keep that in your home, and you want to be able to make it the forefront of their aesthetics of their interior design, because that's what's gonna keep them producing their art.

Bradford :

Have you ever walked into a situation where you were overwhelmed? Like there was just so much? And and how to walk me through? What is that like, where in your brain you have to go to get motivated, because I'm telling you right now, if I walked into a crazy hot mess, I would just shut down,

Unknown:

you know, it happens, it happens to organizers as well, the first day I walk into a hoarding situation, I really take the first half an hour, 45 minutes to assess, do I want to get involved in this? What am I going to find? What am I going to be able to handle if I do find something that I can't imagine? So I just put it in my head that I am there to help my client and if they can't trust me to help them, then who can they trust. So I do my best for them, I do my best because I know that they need the help. And anything that I come across that might be a challenge, I just take a deep breath and find solutions either on my own or you know, hire others to manage it. So

Steve:

Miriam, we live in an AP world. Is there an app at least to like kind of help you with your daily tasks? Or your to do list or something like that? Is there an app that you use or something you'd suggest that would help people be at least organized in their day to day tasks, not necessarily organize their whole lives? Is there anything that exists like that out there?

Unknown:

Absolutely. Evernote is one that's the most popular with professional organizers. You can create lists you can create, generate emails to your clients, put a notice notices on if you've got a blog, send promotions and things like that. But any list app will work anything that works fine even using your Alexa would work just as fine and creating lists and working through them. And you'll find that even just when you're coming up with the daunting things to do on your list, putting a few of the simpler things on the list creates that feeling of accomplishment. So once you get to, you know, make breakfast once you get to check that off your list, then you have that sense of accomplishment. If you can get that accomplished, then you can continue on and get everything else done too. So you also do some concierge stuff, too. So what's like the wildest, weirdest, strangest thing you've ever been asked to do for somebody? Ah, well, I actually was asked to drive to Western Pennsylvania to deliver a letter. Wow, wow, that's a big deal. It was it was it had something it was something that needed to be delivered in person it needed to get there right away, took me six hours, six and a half hours to drive to Pittsburgh to hand deliver a letter and then drive back.

Steve:

Was this a known client of yours? Because that seems pretty sketchy.

Unknown:

Yes, no, no, it was a no. It was someone that I had worked with for years, both as an organizer organizing personal space, but as a productivity organizer, as well. And she had something that needed to get out there right away. And so of course, if that's

Steve:

what you do for a living, she drove to Western Pennsylvania.

Raylene:

Hey, listen, you want to pay me off? I will drive to West, Western Pennsylvania. So actually, that brings me to my next question. What is somebody looking to invest money wise in having somebody to help them clear out their crap slash be their personal crosshairs,

Unknown:

right? Well, the delivery to Pennsylvania was an emergency. So it pretty much was like, I don't care how much it costs, I just need to know that it got her premium. And it was just easier to have me do it since she trusted me then to call a service.

Steve:

Like happy old for a day, I'm sorry, what if I like had you come to my house for like a day,

Unknown:

I was gonna say when you say come to your house for a day, you mean like companionship or to like get shit done. She's not like, like to organize your house or to Okay, like eight hours organizing your house,

Steve:

yeah, I'm not gonna pay someone for the other thing, I'll pay them organize my house.

Unknown:

Eight hours is pretty long, I find that usually after four hours, people get exhausted. And when you're tired, it's really hard to say no, to letting something go. So I find that at the bare minimum three, three to four hours, at the most six hours, if my client has the energy and motivation and they want to keep going, then we'll keep going. But eight hours, I usually see that my clients have a cut off at about six. But I do I do offer a series of different packages. Depending on how big the task is, I'll always come in, I'll make an assessment. I'll take a look at your space, take some photos, get some ideas, offer some suggestions on the wonderful little storage units that you can get off of different sites and, and give an approximation of the hours. How long will this take? And depending on how long it'll take, you know, I offer packages, 10 hours, 20 hours, 40 hours. The hoarding situation I have is endless. I've been working on that for months.

Raylene:

So my my daughter has a close friend, like I guess we'll call him my adopted sort of step half son. And he has a hoarding issue. And yes, for him. Yeah, well, yeah, he's he's part of the family now whether we want them or not, but we do so. But she had to hire somebody to help him. And so she gives him homework. And he has to go through things. He asked to sort things and he has to, you know, figure out what he wants to keep. And so I mean, there's a lot involved in what you do, especially when you are dealing with somebody who doesn't want to let anything go because he hasn't, right? Yeah,

Unknown:

well, and and homework is very important. Because yes, I can come in and clear out your space. And in a month, it might be the exact same way I round it in. So I do usually give my clients homework, I give them tasks to do. One because sometimes it's labor intensive. You don't want me to be there three hours just folding t shirts, but to it teaches them how to do it themselves. Most of the time, clients are just overwhelmed. They don't know where to start. They're seeing the forest and not looking at each individual tree and I want to come in and say we can break this down into manageable bite sized projects. And it'll be much less daunting than having to look at this whole space and say How the hell do I tackle this?

Bradford :

So as a as a concierge besides the organization part as Dana touched on, you also do some other things. Can you just give us a really quick list of some other services that you offer? Sure.

Unknown:

I have actually sat with clients and just watched television, just being a companion for them. I helped another client of mine with their grandkids and they were roller skating and She didn't want to get on the on the floor with them. So she had me get on the floor with them and rollerskate with them. I've baked cakes with her grandkids. I've helped some local businesses with some of their administrative work things that they don't want to be bothered with filing, making calls, things like that. I've helped plan home Thanksgiving dinners and Christmas dinners, I make sure that all the food is in the oven at the right time and on the table and I make sure that all the dishes are cleaned up and that everybody's glass is full. So it's just a matter of being a personal assistant and being available to any need that your client has. And making sure that at the end of the day, they're not troubled with what the event or the task is because you've taken that responsibility on yourself.

Steve:

Yeah, that's awesome. Miriam, you're clearly a planner. So we're gonna shift into this little lock round called the lightning round. So this is gonna be really quick answers like right off the top of the head. There's no planning involved whatsoever. I asked the same question for everybody. Every What is your favorite swear in your profession? I know you swear so what is your favorite swear? Oh,

Unknown:

wow, I'm Hispanic. So I tend to take every single Spanish swear and just string them.

Steve:

Can you give us an example?

Unknown:

Oh, am I allowed to

Steve:

fuck Yes, you are. Going

Raylene:

out of there. I heard that.

Steve:

If I parked wrong in a parking lot and I saw some woman yelling at me like that. I would run as fast as

Raylene:

if all right Mary I'm calling you up. She's probably talking to me now You picked up that was bitch. I don't know. I don't know what

Steve:

it was. She wasn't of any kind.

Raylene:

Does horror horror.

Unknown:

Miriam quickly

Raylene:

and now we have clarification on Pooja That's amazing.

Unknown:

Miriam. If you are on death row, what would your last meal be? Say churros? I'm boring.

Steve:

I go What do you bet is a all around every day. Exactly. perfect meal.

Raylene:

They have to be good fries. Oh, don't fucking try to give me those twice. Yes. Fried fresh.

Steve:

You're allowed to send the fries back. Isn't that crazy? Sadly,

Raylene:

not crispy enough. Oh, that's a way to delay the execution. These are not these are not the fries I was looking for. All right, paper or plastic paper. Ooh,

Unknown:

what is your favorite alcohol? rum. Oh, yes. Rum. Always rum.

Steve:

I didn't have a second one. Ready. So who's the last person you swore at? Like swears? Clearly.

Unknown:

Do you put your toilet paper on the roll? Like roll up or roll down?

Steve:

We're gonna judge you

Raylene:

because I have a cat. So hold back, roll back.

Steve:

That's the third time I've heard that this week. That sounds like oh I have a cat so I do underneath

Raylene:

because if you do it forward they can just rolling and I've always done roll back

Unknown:

there was also a little part of me that was hoping that because you do organization that you were gonna say that you make it into like a pretty triangle.

Raylene:

Or like you know, she's not

Unknown:

that crazy. That was like the greatest joy. But

Raylene:

your favorite season.

Unknown:

Summer definitely summer clothes love the warm weather swimming. Yes. nice

Bradford :

clothes, shoes or like sandals,

Unknown:

clothing, close toed shoes. Nice. Awesome.

Raylene:

She's in New Jersey. It's cold like nine months out of the

Steve:

Maryam you have survived the lightning round. I appreciate the the string of the Hispanic swears that made my entire day dead. The organization of it was amazing.

Unknown:

If you ever do hear one it's probably it's probably going to be a dangerous situation. So yes, ma'am. You should send that in a text to Bradford and then he can make it the name of the episode.

Steve:

Dana, you brought a lot of episode already but that right there was an amazing Miriam again. Thank you for joining us. We have Miriam Messer as a guest she is a professional organizer and concierge and she can take care of your whole life everything you need. Miriam if I need you to complete my room, my car all the disaster in my life. How do I do that?

Unknown:

Well, you can find me at www dot organised with serenity.com or you can find me on Facebook at a serenity concierge solutions. I am always available to help either in person or even virtually. So if I can't make it out to you in person, especially during these COVID times, I can always assist through a video chat.

Steve:

Well Miriam Messer thank you again for joining us. My life feels organized already.

Raylene:

I just like had like a period of depression and I have off like, a shit ton of clothes. I have clothes in every single size because who knows when I'm back to this size and get back to them. Nice I'm gonna do and then I don't some like when I get when I lost a shit ton of weight last time I throw away a bunch of my clothes and my husband was like, Well what if you get back into those clothes and I was just like that I'm gonna be depressed and I'm gonna need to buy more clothes stupid or I'm at I am

Steve:

at life. I went and bought a T shirt the other day. didn't even get to my waist. No one went Holy shit. You're old in fat now like your two or three sons. I bought three sizes smaller.

Raylene:

You look like Well, okay, that was your

Steve:

mistake, but that's what I mean. I'm like you're not fucking 18 anymore.

Bradford :

We're breaking into snack you're

Raylene:

definitely like a medium slash large

Steve:

hostess if you would like to sponsor our spa. Guess what? They're they've been making these birthday cupcakes and a container with two. I've been buying them at the gas station across the street from the radio station for like two months now. I just want to eat one like every day.

Unknown:

I don't know if you've talked to my dad asking me to be a guest tonight but not only do I remember listening to rush limbaugh on the way to school but my dad used to get the yellow ones of these like the lemony

Steve:

no dinner we plan this whole it's all about me simply about our guests.

Raylene:

I actually tried. I tried to plan like I really need to go to Miami I need two things to get out of the depression.

Steve:

shitty I've always felt like

Raylene:

it's got fucking sunshine. Right? So there's two things that I need right now. One is Sunshine I need my vitamin D seems like all the douchebags would flock to Miami. I don't give a shit. I'm gonna drink my drinks and sit by the pool. kick us a little bit.

Steve:

Every February the douchebags roll in right around February.

Raylene:

All I'm saying is if you want to go in the month of March to a Marriott in Miami, good fucking luck. There. They're full. They're full full. Because I need two things. I need sunshine and I need to get paid because I haven't been paid since February 28. of 2020. For anything, why I've gotten some

Steve:

shout out to Raylene raelians husband.

Raylene:

No. I mean, like, like we still have a house and my car cars and shit. But I'm used to making money but my parties have canceled in my comedy shows if canceled. No, my stand up comedy sex ed is canceled. Like I made good money before this pandemic. And I am having a trouble. I'm having trouble. Like I am depressed. I am sad. I am upset. I am like literally not doing anything. I have a business coach and she's like, hey, let's do this. Let's do this. Let's do this. And I'm just not responding to her.

Steve:

Do you consider I considered organizing my car or my room? I wish I did. I went and I might get skinny and need that three times two small medium t shirt.

Raylene:

It's just it's it's just been like, I mean, what's everybody wearing to the one year anniversary of the 14 days to you know, stop the curve. Like whatever the fuck that thing when we called it was I have not been able to get paid for what I do in over a year. Can Can we have a virtual one year COVID party? Yeah.

Unknown:

Let's get used let's fuckin

Raylene:

Yeah, it's just it's really hard. And I like over the summer I was like, yeah, this great this unemployment, this QA. It's great. I'm making more money over this because I never make money in the summer because who want I don't want to work. People don't want to have parties. It's awesome. But, you know, usually I Honest to God make between three and $6,000 a month. And I have made nothing since February 28 of 2020. And it's really, really hard. Wow.

Unknown:

Yikes. Yeah. Yeah, I can imagine. Yeah. Wow,

Raylene:

come here. Since I've made my own damn money.

Steve:

I feel like I should get a job everyone inside and you can't go to the bar. And you can't go go find some dick at the bar. Wouldn't you need a frickin sex toy? Yeah,

Raylene:

yeah, no, in the beginning, the the I had a lot of commission from outside sales. And I appreciate that because I yesterday was my 14th year anniversary of being a consultant for the company that I work for. And so I've built a nice grouping of people, a team of people who love me and respect Me and trust me, and if they're going to buy a sex toy, they buy it from me. And I love that. And I appreciate that. But the parties, and the interaction that I get with the people and the comedy shows and the interaction they get with the people and the stand up comedy, sex ed shows where I make a fuck ton of money. Like, those are the things that make my world and all of that has been gone for a year. So sometimes I'll get like a spattered like in the very beginning my outside sales for like commission. In March, April, people I was getting like two grand a month not to like two grand retail sales through my website, because immediately, like you said, when the whole pamet gemak happen, everybody was like, I need this next toy. And that was and that was great. And then it tapered off. And then I was unemployment and whatever. And it's really fucking hard, you guys.

Steve:

Well, it's a microcosm of the economy is that and the beginning everyone saw the jobs and we're in unemployment, and then all those people lost their jobs. And now an unemployment checks not gonna pay for a ban of pure romance stuff. So it kind of shows you how it is. And it's a microcosm of how it goes around the whole country of what's going on with the small businesses that could reopen. But if people don't have jobs, or they're not making what they normally do, they can't go walk in and buy the pizza and go to the local business in your local business

Raylene:

or they're afraid to have the parties because they they you know, they don't want to expose people right they don't want to expose people

Steve:

to the marketing department of pure romance and say can you make fucking social distance dildos?

Unknown:

Double sided, oh,

Steve:

three and three, and you touched it tips?

Raylene:

No, it's called a double sided don't that that's not the problem. The problem isn't. The problem is that I can't if you're not at the tip, do the party going, you ain't safe. So anyway, everything is fine. Now I have a couple speaking gigs I had gotten out from under my cloud of depression. But I just I wanted other people to know out there that you are not alone. This is a really hard time to come into. We're going to one year anniversary of some of us not being able to make any money. And hopefully there's light at the end of the tunnel,

Steve:

get the year really organized the way things are looked at differently. Like you don't see the essential jobs are not what you thought they weren't the way ours is. We during the snowstorm in Texas, there was one Domino is open, and there is no other food source. And they sold a week's worth of food and four hours. So like, a week before in Texas, you said hey, those guys down there making minimum wage at Domino's. Are they essential employees or no? Well, guess what, on that fucking Friday afternoon in Texas when there's no more open. They were the only food source that existed for miles around. So we're relearning what's important. So there's some bad aspects and there's some silver linings of just realizing what's important and that's supporting local business that's supporting people like you. That's understanding that, yes, Walmart's exists. And we do need to go there and it is convenient, but like take the fucking 10 minutes out of your day to inconvenience yourself to help the people who have kids that go to the same schools as you and live in the same neighborhoods because the Walton family is fine. Yeah, they're promise you that Jeff Bezos is fine. Okay, Jeff Bezos could probably buy Mars once the rover is done with a job like he probably already bought it and we don't know about it's probably called Amazon. They just haven't updated it yet.

Raylene:

keep supporting your local businesses, your local food people the tip your, your, your instacart people. Tip your grub hub grub hub of

Steve:

support your local podcasts. Yes, and local means it's in your fucking phone and wherever you live. That means local. So that is a wrap Episode 17 in the bag. Curtis is somewhere out there exploring the world each day. Anna, thank you for filling in forum. Thanks. And we will see you guys next week.

Keith:

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Miriam Messer

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Miriam is a Professional Organizer and Concierge with Serenity Concierge Solutions. As a professional organizer, Miriam uses mindfulness techniques, NLP, and behavior modification to help clients process their attachment to clutter. As a concierge, she also helps people organize the productivity of projects, tasks, and events. In business since 2008, her greatest joy is helping her clients create a safe and serene space for a more mindful and peaceful living.